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re: Trump’s Boldest Argument Yet: Immunity From Prosecution for Assassinations

Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:35 pm to
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:35 pm to
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If that’s what they wanted to require, they should have worded the clause better.


The Constitution as originally written, is barely over 4000 words long. There are innumerable items they could have explained better, expanded on, or reworded, but they could not know every question and issue that would pop up 200 years later.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:35 pm to
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I couldn’t disagree with the conclusion more as it relates to the impeachment issue, but I see that it is out there.


Not only is it “out there,” it is the policy of the DOJ since 1973.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34323 posts
Posted on 1/11/24 at 1:39 pm to
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It’s not the underlying legality that is at question. It’s whether the action was taken within the scope of the duties of the office. Obama’s drone strikes rather indisputably were ordered as part of his performance of his duty as commander in chief.


It was a targeted assassination of a U.S. citizen. It wasn’t “collateral” in nature.

Are you suggesting that one US citizen (a political opponent), has more rights than another (a terrorist)?

If that’s the case, if Biden states that “MAGA Republicans” are terrorists, can he kill them as part of his “duties” as CIC?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34323 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 6:59 am to
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Again, President Obama may have had a moral justification, but it’s the legality of the circumstance that is at question.


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t’s not the underlying legality that is at question. It’s whether the action was taken within the scope of the duties of the office. Obama’s drone strikes rather indisputably were ordered as part of his performance of his duty as commander in chief. Assassinating political opponents can’t even arguably fit into that category.


It was a targeted assassination of a U.S. citizen. It wasn’t “collateral” in nature.

Are you suggesting that one US citizen (a political opponent), has more rights than another (a terrorist)?

If that’s the case, if Biden states that “MAGA Republicans” are terrorists, can he kill them as part of his “duties” as CIC?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34323 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 7:02 am to
A second chance to answer (since you didn’t respond the first time):


Again, if Biden says that “MAGA voters” (aka US citizens that won’t support his stupidity) are terrorists, can he have the military (arbitrarily and without penalty) kill them?
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 7:17 am
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34323 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 7:15 am to
Same question (above).
Posted by LSU90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
677 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 7:33 am to
What is being implied is that the President, as the top of the executive branch, can be taken down by any small town attorney general, for any crime

That renders the office of the President as subservient to the whims of any opposite minded person, making this a full democracy with no balancing mechanism.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34323 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 7:29 am to
No answer to this question:

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If Biden says that militias (aka US citizens that won’t support his stupidity) are terrorists, can he have the military (arbitrarily and without penalty) kill them?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34323 posts
Posted on 1/14/24 at 5:53 pm to
No answer to this question:

quote:
If Biden says that militias (aka US citizens that won’t support his stupidity) are terrorists, can he have the military (arbitrarily and without penalty) kill them?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34323 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:18 am to
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If Biden says that militias (aka US citizens that won’t support his stupidity) are terrorists, can he have the military (arbitrarily and without penalty) kill them?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34323 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 11:18 am to
No answer to this question:

quote:
If Biden says that militias (aka US citizens that won’t support his stupidity) are terrorists, can he have the military (arbitrarily and without penalty) kill them?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34323 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:56 pm to
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No answer to this question: quote: If Biden says that militias (aka US citizens that won’t support his stupidity) are terrorists, can he have the military (arbitrarily and without penalty) kill them?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34323 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:41 am to
Bump
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34323 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:46 am to
Yet another chance to answer the question amigo.
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
3842 posts
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:52 am to
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quote:

Mr. Sauer said his answer was a “qualified yes,” by which he meant no.

I’m not sure that is what it means.


Given that the source article is the NY Times, they are doing their usual "mUH dRuMpf Iz Bad oRanJE MaN FaScIst!!!" garbage. Of course "qualified yes" does not mean "no". It means "it depends" which Im sure a reporter with a degree from somewhere better than Punksatawny community college might understand.
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