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Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:55 am to lsu2006
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Ok, so we're talking about criminal liability? All I'm asserting is that you will be open to civil liability for knowingly making false statements about a public figure and it causes them damage. That means you can't just say whatever the hell you want without concern for the truth without some kind of recourse.
and technically you are correct. There are limits that can be enforced via libel laws if a person goes too far, but the reality is the bar is set so high that in practice, you can say whatever you like without fear of even losing money in a civil case.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:55 am to DawgsLife
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You either fish a lot or have a parakeet.
Had to use butcher paper for my parrot. With newspaper in his cage he'd just look at me and say, "be redundant, be redundant, bwarrrk".
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:56 am to buckeye_vol
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I would have to ask the boss why he allowed the guy in my job to not do his job. If taken to court, I would win, too
What? In my scenario, that's why the first guy doesn't have a job. So you think you'll win by doing the same thing that he was fired for in the first place?
I missed that part. Trouble is Obama wasn't replaced. It was an open election. Trump didn't win by replacing Obama,. he won because people hated Hillary. So, you example doesn't fit the circumstances.
If you are not going to complain about Obama paying attention to things he should have stayed out of...why are you complaining about Trump?
Isn't there a word for that?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:56 am to Sidicous
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Had to use butcher paper for my parrot. With newspaper in his cage he'd just look at me and say, "be redundant, be redundant, bwarrrk".
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:59 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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and technically you are correct. There are limits that can be enforced via libel laws if a person goes too far, but the reality is the bar is set so high that in practice, you can say whatever you like without fear of even losing money in a civil case.
Not totally true....
There have been tons of libel cases that have been won. But, you are correct about the bar being set so high. It is very difficult to win one. I am actually glad it is, too.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:59 am to lsu2006
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New York Times columnist Charles Blow: Trump’s false claim that stop and frisk in NYC wasn’t ruled unconstitutional
It wasnt. The judge was removed from the case on appeal. And in a statement, the NYPD acknowledged Scheindlin only ordered remedies to ensure the agency “applies the lawful policing tool constitutionally.”
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:59 am to joshnorris14
we love our president, dont we folks
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:01 pm to lsu2006
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Donald Trump Repeats False Claim of Illegal Voting - New York Times
We already have a University paper detailing that illegals are voting. The question now is, to what degree?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:05 pm to 9th life
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Could you elaborate? I am not challenging you, and am genuinely curious.
quote:- Arthur Ochs Sulzberger
If White men were not complaining, it would be an indication we weren't succeeding and making the inroads that we are.
Editorial choices were made in the late 1990s/early 2000s that carry over till today. Even non-political sections of the paper were deliberately made "political". Arts, Literature, Fashion, etc. all started promoting certain ideas and engaging in certain forms of discourse that, in my opinion, diminished the paper.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:06 pm to lsu2006
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New York Times: Trump Digs In on Wiretap, No Matter What the Evidence
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:06 pm to lsu2006
Do I need to go on?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:09 pm to DawgsLife
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Not totally true....
There have been tons of libel cases that have been won. But, you are correct about the bar being set so high. It is very difficult to win one. I am actually glad it is, too.
See, I disagree . I think our libel laws are outdated.
Remember they were created at a time where if you told lies about someone , you would get your arse kicked, and no one would say boo, so there was no reason to throw someone in jail, or even punish them financially for lying because most people , not wanting to get their asses kicked, didn't lie about people anyway
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:10 pm to League Champs
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Do I need to go on?
Yes
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:22 pm to lsu2006
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Give some examples and apply those facts to the standard for libel, please. Thanks.
Did the NYT ever print that Trump is mentally unstable and that he will use a nuclear bomb just because he is crazy?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:23 pm to lsu2006
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Yes
Give me the number that you need, in order to be convinced that they are making false statements to intentionally damage Trump?
Cuz we're at 4 now?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:24 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Mo Jeaux
Appreciate it.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:25 pm to League Champs
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Give me the number that you need, in order to be convinced that they are making false statements to intentionally damage Trump?
I'll take just 1 if you have it.
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Cuz we're at 4 now?
Oh, we are? Lol ok.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:29 pm to lsu2006
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New York Times: We blew it on Trump
We now promise to rededicate ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism. That is to report America and the world honestly, without fear or favor.
Had the paper actually been honest about Trump, it wouldn’t need to rededicate itself to honest reporting, would it??
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:31 pm to lsu2006
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I'll take just 1 if you have it.
Well, youre just a piss ant then
Because if the local paper accused you of fondling a woman years ago, when an eyewitness was available to contradict that. Your arse would be lawyered up
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