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re: Trump the fast talking jivemaster…another promise made and another promise NOT KEPT.

Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:44 pm to
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But there was never a chance to end the war before 1/20/25.
Oh there certainly was.
That's why defacto President Jake Sullivan upped the ante several fold after the election with provision of long range missiles, jets, etc. Sullivan et all want perpetual war there, and will do everything they can to scuttle peace efforts, just as they did in Apr 2022.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:48 pm to
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But OP jumped the gun by a couple weeks.


Fair enough.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:48 pm to
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From a 2019 article…he didn’t threaten to withhold the money because he cared about peace, it’s because he didn’t get what he wanted.


he wanted to stop sending cash. And there was peace while he was President.

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But of course, thank you for identifying me as an idiot based on your reasoned response.


I identified you as an idiot because you’re an idiot.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53369 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:50 pm to
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well-reasoned


Is citing fake news and melting down over it well-reasoned?
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:54 pm to
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Hey dumbass, why are you here?

Why don't you leave? If you hate America so much, why don't you fricking leave?

What is America doing for you anyway?

Also, why do you support child sex-trafficking? Don't you have any empathy?

Why do you believe in letting terrorists that killed thousands of Americans out of prison?

Why do you support all of this inflation? Do you genuinely like paying twice as much for groceries?

Why do you support giving tax payer dollars to other countries when millions of Americans are suffering?

Why do you hate America when this is supposed to be your home?


Tired of this.
Who started this kind of fighting, of these kinds of accusations?
Oh. Right. It was late gen millennials, who were taught to do it by their woke college professors.
Posted by LeeeroyJenkins
Member since Aug 2024
852 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:55 pm to
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I identified you as an idiot because you’re an idiot.


Have I attacked you with pejoratives? No, that would be the inverse.

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I learned a long time ago that you don't have to go around using bad language and trying to hurt people to show how macho you are. That stuff won't get you anywhere, it just shows lack of vocabulary and character. - Bobby Bowden


This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 1:58 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
5484 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:11 pm to
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Oh there certainly was.
That's why defacto President Jake Sullivan upped the ante several fold after the election with provision of long range missiles, jets, etc. Sullivan et all want perpetual war there, and will do everything they can to scuttle peace efforts, just as they did in Apr 2022.


Maybe you're right. You seem to know more than I do about the dynamics. I have never heard someone refer to "defacto President Jake Sullivan" before.

I did some research. Jake Sullivan running things foreign policy wise on the behalf of the Globalists would make sense.

On the other hand, Trump had to know that this regime would do whatever necessary to keep the Ukraine money train rolling.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:20 pm to
I knew.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44285 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:23 pm to
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What does me calling out Trump have ANYTHING to do with Harris??


It’s truly not - just seriously questioning your reasoning behind the initial post.

He hasn’t even taken office yet
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
5750 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:48 pm to
I hope it is smoke and mirrors. Just to let them know they better listen to other desires he has. Most of his talk seems to be for the base though.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:40 pm to
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Have I attacked you with pejoratives
The sentiment is appreciated. It is.

FWIW, had you simply admitted the OP was a mistake based either on your misunderstanding of facts, and/or being misled by deliberately deceptive news sources, I suspect responder politesse might have been more evident.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53369 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 5:24 pm to
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Have I attacked you with pejoratives? No, that would be the inverse.


Well, I’m not an idiot. You are. That’s likely why.

quote:

I learned a long time ago that you don't have to go around using bad language and trying to hurt people to show how macho you are. That stuff won't get you anywhere, it just shows lack of vocabulary and character. - Bobby Bowden


Wish he had a quote about lying and fake accusations. Shows a lack of intellect.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
131697 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 5:40 pm to
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Well, I’m not an idiot. You are. That’s likely why.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5440 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:15 pm to
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quote:
are you a retard?


For quoting your Lord and Master and his false promises? If that’s a retard, I guess so.



You people love to believe we worship Trump. What you don't get is Trump is just a salesman. He happens to be the first one to step up and start selling the thoughts and beliefs of a huge portion of forgotten Americans. And guess what, not a victim or crybaby among us. Half of us stand up to pee, the other half sit down to. It's that simple. And we are no longer going to work 60 hours a week to placate you bunch of pussies. Gravy train is over.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:51 pm to
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hope it is smoke and mirrors. Just to let them know they better listen to other desires he has. Most of his talk seems to be for the base though.


Agreed on this, as well
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:00 pm to
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The reality is that Trump won't end the Ukraine war in the next 12 days. That doesn't mean that he won't resolve the war during his presidency. I hope he does. But there was never a chance to end the war before 1/20/25.


Sometimes it's easy to forget how much the situation there has changed, from the time Trump made that comment.
The war has escalated since then. And in so doing, could potentially be harder to resolve. Significantly.
And of course, there are those who don't want the war to end. And will obstruct as much effort to end it, as they can.
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
Member since Oct 2015
5750 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:06 am to
He so let’s go create more spending by going after the Panama Canal and Greenland while all of. aTO says they won’t allow it. I see this ending with Trump being put in his place by a large coalition of other nations just saying no to him and the US looking stupid.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
4783 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 9:27 am to
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He so let’s go create more spending by going after the Panama Canal and Greenland while all of. aTO says they won’t allow it. I see this ending with Trump being put in his place by a large coalition of other nations just saying no to him and the US looking stupid.

This is one of those cases where I wanted to argue this out of emotional reaction.
But yeah, I'm more of a realist.
I don't like that this is a possibility, but I do agree that it could happen this way. And there's a lot of ramifications, if it does.

Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
962 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:38 pm to
So you are just some negative turd smelling nobody voter! Cool that will get things done.
Posted by RedHog260
Member since Oct 2023
962 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 3:06 pm to
So you just suck is that it? Stupid?
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