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re: Trump supporters are the majority

Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:13 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263211 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:13 am to
quote:

You arent a conservative


Individual Freedom
Limited Government
The Rule of Law
Peace through Strength
Free Markets
Fiscal Responsibility.


You bet your arse I am. MAGA is not. In fact, MAGA supports possibly one of those ideals.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13363 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:13 am to
You don't make deals with people who are misleading the American public. The republican party has been selling principle, values, patriotism, and American exceptionalism. But as a whole, they turn their backs on all of that and screw the American people at every opportunity if there is money to be made.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75010 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Individual Freedom
Limited Government
The Rule of Law
Peace through Strength
Free Markets
Fiscal Responsibility


Everything Trump stands for. So again you arent conservative

Clown
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263211 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:15 am to
Yo
quote:

u don't make deals with people


Then you never get walls, deportations, rubber dog shite factories...

Congrats on the status quo.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263211 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:15 am to
quote:

Individual Freedom
Limited Government
The Rule of Law
Peace through Strength
Free Markets
Fiscal Responsibility


Everything Trump stands for


You poor child.

I wasnt aware your affliction was this bad.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75010 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:18 am to
Sorry your feelings are hurt

Realizing you are just like Orange is devstating.

You entire schtick just got blown up and you are an adulterer like him.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13363 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:19 am to
quote:

Then you never get walls, deportations, rubber dog shite factories...

Congrats on the status quo.




For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9686 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:19 am to
I'm interested to hear why you feel that Trump promotes individual freedom, limited government and fiscal responsibility. I'm genuinely interested in your views supporting this.

I'm not trashing Trump nor you. You can support whatever you like. I just want an explanation of what Trump did in his 8 plus years in politics that makes you think he champions those ideals.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141505 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:21 am to
You don't remember how he stood up and did something about all those BLM riots?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263211 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:22 am to
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You don't remember how he stood up and did something about all those BLM riots?



He made a lot of empty threats and they just laughed at him.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263211 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:23 am to
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or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?


My soul is worth a hell of a lot more than a couple free stimmies and a new rubber dog shite factory.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75010 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:23 am to
What individual freedoms did you lose under Orange?
How did Gov get bigger under Orange vs any other R Prez?

There isnt a single politician who has fiscal responsibilty

So there is 7 out of 8 of Rogers requirements to be conservative.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263211 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:26 am to
quote:

What individual freedoms did you lose under Orange?
How did Gov get bigger under Orange vs any other R Prez?

There isnt a single politician who has fiscal responsibilty




You claim that Trump supports these ideals, when questioned, you did nothing but show why these ideals arent important to Trump.

Good job at compiling evidence that this is nothing but a personality cult.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9719 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:27 am to
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Gee, if only we had some sort of party democratic process to draw information from. Like, say, a primary, or possibly a shitload of them.
there was barely even one primary this year where he had opponents
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
75010 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:27 am to
So you cant provide any examples?

Im not shocked
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263211 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:27 am to
quote:


there was barely even one primary this year where he had opponents


Right. In which Trump was afraid to debate.

A conspiracy theory person could read a lot into this...
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13363 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:27 am to
quote:

My soul is worth a hell of a lot more than a couple free stimmies and a new rubber dog shite factory.


Then you don't sell your soul to shitbag capitulating republicans? Where is your disconnect?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79508 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:28 am to
I like you Roger

But I think you're a classical liberal/libertarian, not a conservative.

And SDV is obviously not a conservative (or a classical liberal). At root he's probably a Clinton democrat.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9686 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:29 am to
Instead of answering my question you ask me questions.

quote:

What individual freedoms did you lose under Orange?


The #1 freedom I care about is the 2nd Amendment. Trump absolutely caved to pressure after the Vegas shooting and attempted to outlaw pistol braces.

That's a huge freedom that Trump tried to take away.

quote:

How did Gov get bigger under Orange vs any other R Prez?


The government behemoth ballooned in 2020 because of Trump and he willingly let the fedgov run amok.


I'm not scared to answer a simple question about what I believe.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
141505 posts
Posted on 3/18/24 at 8:30 am to
Trump never capitulated?
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