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re: Trump says in regards to Beirut, "it looks like a terrible attack."

Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:27 pm to
Posted by DougsMugs
Georgia
Member since Aug 2019
8239 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:27 pm to
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Bongino rule in Effect.



yep. BTW, what would stop Iran or other terrorist group from using what is available? All that fertilizer just sitting there for the people with right ability and evil intent.

Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
20997 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:29 pm to
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They aren’t officially. Trump passed that EO asking everybody to think real hard about designating them as such, but it’s not happening any time soon.
You mind telling us the definition of a terrorist organization?
Posted by DougsMugs
Georgia
Member since Aug 2019
8239 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:29 pm to
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Obama and Bush Jr. would have been coy about it.


Obama would have claimed it was an anti-Muslim video that caused it.
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44017 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:36 pm to
I don’t think anyone has announced for certain what triggered it.
IOW, they know ammonium nitrate was the source, but what ignited the explosion?

Forbes just released an interesting article (linked below) about it most likely not being Israel; but they didn’t totally dismiss the question of the explosion being caused by a group.

Was Israel Responsible For The Beirut Explosion?
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:45 pm to
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it is clearly tied to whatever the FBI was doing in Cleveland and Miami today.


Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24778 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by Steadmans Cheddar
Member since Dec 2019
1347 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:52 pm to
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You mind telling us the definition of a terrorist organization?


I’d probably go with the definition found in 8 USC 1189, minus the requirement that the organization be foreign-based.

So far, Antifa hasn’t been formally designated as a terrorist organization by the federal government. If you have information to the contrary, feel free to pass it along.
Posted by TigerMan79
Lake Charles
Member since Jul 2014
808 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:54 pm to
A friend in Sweden told me that news all over the Middle East says this was an attack. They are claiming that it was a huge weapons stash. Take it for what it's worth
Posted by MikeAV8s
Member since Oct 2016
1740 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:57 pm to
You don’t know what caused the explosion. You don’t know if it was an accident or not. None of us do. I’m willing to bet that no one knows.......yet.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24778 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:01 pm to
Interesting thread

quote:

Carlos Osweda
@COsweda
Thread

It was an arms depot.

Missiles from Iran.

First, the warheads were destroyed. Listen to them going off.
Twitter link
Posted by Shamwow
Member since Oct 2019
700 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

A friend in Sweden told me that news all over the Middle East says this was an attack. They are claiming that it was a huge weapons stash. Take it for what it's worth



Tell your friend to tell the Middle East to stop being racist....Brian Stelzer said it was an accident and OMB.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41187 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:06 pm to
According to USA Today- this is what Trump actually said
quote:


WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump said Tuesday that U.S. military officials advised him that a massive explosion in Beirut appeared to be an "attack," though he offered little detail to explain how his administration had come to that conclusion.

At least 60 people were killed and thousands were wounded in an explosion that caused widespread damage in the Lebanese capital. Trump said he had been briefed by “our great generals” and that they “seem to feel” that the explosion was not an accident

"According to them – they would know better than I would – but they seem to think it was an attack,"
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
20997 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:12 pm to
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I’d probably go with the definition found in 8 USC 1189, minus the requirement that the organization be foreign-based.

So far, Antifa hasn’t been formally designated as a terrorist organization by the federal government. If you have information to the contrary, feel free to pass it along.



Terrorism is defined in the Code of Federal Regulations as
quote:

the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives

Seems to fit Antifa like a glove...technically the BLM organization too.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
Member since Oct 2008
20997 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:14 pm to
Look to my post on 2nd page about midway down.
Posted by LeroooyJenkins
Member since Nov 2017
1058 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:16 pm to
Some of those gifts from Obama stored in there?

I have read more than 1 person speculating on the use of some laser directed energy weapon. I remember reading about those years ago when there were people claiming they were using them to start fires in California.

Or the whole thing might just be a terrible accident. Who knows
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:18 pm to
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It was an arms depot.

Missiles from Iran.


I mean every video I’ve seen certainly has some munitions looking explosions and noises.

Fireworks warehouses explodes next to giant fertilizer warehouse sounds a bit too convenient a story.

But I will say this, the absolute quickest way for trump to lose this election and destroy his base and support is to get involved in a hot war in the Middle East before November.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:20 pm to
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Posted by ChEgrad
Member since Nov 2012
3264 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:21 pm to
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Looks like another Israeli warcrime.


Yeah, that is a baseless slander. Israel is a lot more strategic than that explosion and pretty much only strikes when strategically necessary.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:27 pm to

You DO grasp the difference in saying it LOOKS like one and that it COULD HAVE BEEN one, or that he suspects it was one right ?


Here , tell me this doesn't look familiar.

LINK
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24778 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

I mean every video I’ve seen certainly has some munitions looking explosions and noises.

Fireworks warehouses explodes next to giant fertilizer warehouse sounds a bit too convenient a story.


I am by no means an expert but it sure looked as if those munitions were going off in the same building judging from the closest rooftop video and then the photo of the 3 men in front of the bags of chemicals.
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