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re: Trump instructs the UFO files to be released

Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:26 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:26 pm to
Marco is about to be named interim emperor of planet Nubiro.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:29 pm to
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Just would think we would find more examples of technology had it existed prior but I won’t Poo poo that thought or possibility.


Check this video. This is the best example I've found yet.



Something really caught my eye in those latest Epstein files released. In one of his emails to someone else he is talking about the Rothschilds as being the "best clients in the world" and then simply said, "prehistoric products."

Hmm. Prehistoric products? And that makes them the best clients in the world. I would LOVE to know what those products are.
Posted by Morpheus
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:51 pm to
Yeah, I love this stuff.

I’m just happy that we are finally at a time with Technology and Online information that “some” of it is finally coming to light.

Because make no mistake, they will never tell us everything.
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:53 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 10:57 pm to
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Here's what I think UAPs are

I think the core cases are non-human autonomous engineered systems that behave like distributed sensors and test assets, not like vehicles with occupants.

They look like “craft” to us because humans pattern match to vehicles. I think the better mental model is field-deployed instruments that can reposition, sample, and evade, with loss tolerated.

What their architecture probably looks like

1) Local staging nodes

They persist in-domain. If they do not persist locally, the logistics signature would eventually show up clearly. Local staging can be underwater, upper atmosphere, or orbit, with the ocean being the most plausible for hiding and proximity to naval assets.

2) Tasked excursion nodes

The thing you see is the excursion node. It enters a sensor and response envelope, provokes a reaction, records the reaction, exits. It does not need to win a dogfight. It needs to win the information trade.

3) Relay and coordination layer

A single node cannot reliably perform the pattern people report without a cueing picture. I think there is a relay or coordination layer that can hand off tasks and maintain awareness across domains.

What their objective function is

I think they are running a long-term program to map:
• human sensor capabilities and coverage gaps
• engagement doctrine and decision latency
• escalation thresholds around nuclear systems and carrier groups
• how human institutions contain ambiguity, stigmatize inquiry, and classify anomalies

That last one matters. If you can make a species self-blind through stigma and bureaucracy, you can operate indefinitely at low risk.

Why I think “probe” rather than “visitors”

Because the behavior is consistent with measurement, not communication.
• repeat visits to high value military nodes
• minimal interaction, no negotiation, no messaging
• controlled ambiguity and rapid exit
• persistence over decades

That is reconnaissance logic.

How I think the “impossible performance” works

I think it is a blend of two mechanisms, depending on case.

A) Real performance edge

Some nodes can genuinely move in ways we cannot match, likely because they can manage drag and heat better than our systems, and can transition between air and water without the normal penalties.

B) Perception control

Some “instant acceleration” profiles are the result of degrading our tracking confidence across radar, IR, and fusion systems. If you can manipulate track formation and handoffs, you can manufacture an impossible looking object without needing impossible thrust. The point remains the same: break intercept logic and keep attribution uncertain.

What I think the government knows

I think the US has a small set of cases with high-fidelity data and possibly material custody. I think they still do not have reliable control, capture ability, or full understanding, which is why the public story stays in permanent ambiguity.

Bottom line:

There is a non human autonomous ISR presence operating on Earth that sometimes runs close passes on our most information-rich military systems, and the reason it remains unresolved publicly is because the state would rather manage stigma and classification than admit a standing penetration by something it cannot deter.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 11:01 pm to
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Yeah, I love this stuff.


Man, that guy from that YouTube channel, Ben, at Uncharted X is a must follow if you don't already. He has done some amazing frickin work on this stuff. I can highly recommend his videos on what he terms "A Tale of Two Industries." He makes a clear cut ironclad argument, imo, that the Egyptians inherited the bones of a previously collapsed, but highly advanced civilization. We are talking computers and laser cutting technologies in use. The videos are a little on the long side, but if you enjoy that sort of stuff, they're GREAT to watch/listen to.

Something like 1,500 statues of Ramses are found across Egypt of varying sizes. All cut out of granite and ALL display precisely the same proportions.

The face on the statues are all perfectly symmetrical. So perfect from one side of the face to the other that they look cartoonish. People's faces aren't naturally that symmetrical. The reason why this is is because it was a computers way of saving coding space. They will have taken a picture of his face, it codes one side only and then mirrors that on the other side and makes an exactly symmetrical face.





They are precisely symmetrical. Every damn one of them. That isn't achieved by hand. It is done with computers and lasers.
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 11:15 pm to
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Let me say this more directly and with a little more precision than I usually do. The reason I am talking at all like this is that no one inside has asked me not to do so with a credible ask. Here goes:

I don’t know if we have made alien contact. But there is a mountain of indirect evidence that is all but impossible to explain otherwise.

There is a mountain of fabricated BS mixed in with it. We deliberately produced copious BS to hide whatever the reality is.

There is no explanation for the first mountain of real indirect evidence having given us no hard evidence. That is the puzzle I can’t solve. I admit that.

Ultimately this secret involves the hardest of the sciences: Mathematics, Biology, and Physics.

I do not believe the String Theory story of “The Only Game In Town” is remotely possible. It’s just too dumb.

I believe string theory is harmless. The thing that doomed us was TOGIT.

TOGIT is the soft sunset program the Biden @WhiteHouse discussed with @pmarca and @bhorowitz. It cuts off all oxygen to anyone who challenges the decision to seal all our best Professors into the intellectual sarcophagus of modern QuantumGravity so they cannot threaten our national interest. Then the lid is glued shut with Peer Review, Elsevier, h-indices, impact factors, arxiv moderation, jstor, loyalty oaths, DEI, deans, HR, etc to ensure no escape takes place.

I believe that since May 4th, 1969, there has been a move to relocate the open science (particularly physics/mathematics) on which National Security depends OUTSIDE universities because top professors are seen as subverting NatSec.

I believe that James Schlesinger will come up in this discussion and that the Mansfield amendment was completely misportrayed as a peacenik move. It was about soft sunsetting the brilliant but stubbornly independent professors like Leo Szilard, Steve Smale, Alexander Grothendieck, Phillip Morrison, Linus Pauling, etc

I believe that the attempt to do hard basic science in National Labs, Comoany Labs, Aerospace companies, Hedge funds, High security university affiliates (Draper, Lincoln, JH Applied Physics Lab, etc), think tanks, etc was NOT as successful as hoped.

I don’t believe that the Government cracked physics. At all.

I also believe there is some secret scientific knowledge kept from theorists in universities. I just don’t believe it is that much. But I’m more open to being wrong on that than 2 years ago. Still find it hard to believe.

I believe Jeffrey Epstein’s covert operation was trying to spy and recruit scientists based on the belief that certain areas of science when dark.

I believe Epstein’s puppeteers were obsessed with Gravity for good reason. They wanted to know if there was US secret scientific knowledge of post-Einsteinian, post-spacetime engineering. Which is wildly smart.

I believe the El Paso NOTAM wasn’t about Cartel Drones at all. I don’t think it was about Texas or the Border either. I believe it was another name for highly sensitive areas of New Mexico north of West Texas. Look at a map.

I believe we talk too much about Florida and Little St James. I believe New Mexico as home to Sandia, Zorro, Roswell, Los Alamos, Trinity, Bill Richardson, etc unites the UFO, Epstein and “Strange Death of Physics” Stories.

I believe @pmarca and @bhorowitz are truth tellers. That may even be the key.

I believe this is about disturbing secrets which people used to kill for, and this is going to be a LOT less ‘fun’ than people used to recreationally speculating about and UFOs imagine.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 11:19 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 11:27 pm to
He's right there. In Bannon's interview with Epstein, Epstein straight up says that he bought the property in New Mexico because of its proximity to scientists who had worked for the government but had their programs sunsetted and were still living in the area. Epstein recruited those he could and funded them to work on all manner of things. These are former government physicists and the like working on these projects in the black.

In addition to that, Epstein was building a baby farm there and was into creating designer babies and clones. And none of this is conspiracy theory. It's in the frickin files.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 11:41 pm to
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- Iran War

- More US Epstein level arrests

- Major UFO/Spaceforce event

- Deutsche Bank Collapse

- Gold/BTC Hyper spike

From 1/7/2020…
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 11:49 pm to
We both have a thread on this so I'll put it in both, but this is what Paulina Luna has said about these things. The classified files Trump is talking about declassifying? Luna's oversight committee has reviewed these files in a SCIF now. She mentions this in this video.

She has gone farther than anyone else in going public and talking about it and she keeps going back to biblical themes with this stuff. This is why I keep going back to things like the Ramses statues. Imo, what we are going to find out is that there was a previous (maybe multiple) highly advanced civilization on this planet. The frickin Bible talks about it. The people on the Earth in the days and even before Adam and Eve. The nephilim. The people who Cain chose his wife from when he was banished and made to wander. They were highly advanced. The flood wiped them out. But there was a breakaway element and they were interplanetary/perhaps interstellar by that point.

They have been here the entire time.

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Posted by crimsoncoded94
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Posted on 2/19/26 at 11:49 pm to
Way more than aliens exist. Y'all would be shocked what exist.
Posted by Morpheus
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 12:08 am to
Well..

We’re waiting
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 12:13 am to


I’m gonna watch that full video in the morning
Posted by crimsoncoded94
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 12:16 am to
Let's start with what exactly is it that's eating kidnapped children in hollywood?

There is over 300 GB worth of data released exposing people for eating children with most of the children being eaten are newborns. one was still attached to the placenta.

Does that sound like something humans would do to you?
Posted by Morpheus
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:04 am to
We need more light in the World.

What’s the chances any of these Aliens are Hot with huge sexual appetites?

*My attempt at lightning the mood.
This post was edited on 2/20/26 at 1:06 am
Posted by hawkeye007
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:12 am to
He couldn’t let Obama make it real. Obama will always live rent free in Trumps head.
Posted by crimsoncoded94
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 1:16 am to
I get it. I've gone down the rabbit hole too far. It's scary what goes on in this world.
Posted by Clark14
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Posted on 2/20/26 at 12:42 pm to
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He couldn’t let Obama make it real. Obama will always live rent free in Trumps head.


Bingo.
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