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re: Trump: Flashy vs Effective

Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:10 pm to
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We voted for Trump in 2024 because we’re sick of people like you.


And you'll end up with Democrat rule, because you people dont understand the political landscape.
Posted by Tigersforthee
Member since Dec 2025
121 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:10 pm to
So if someone calls you a name youre gonna suddenly become a Democrat? Your supposed core values do an instant 180 the moment you feel slighted or insulted? Thats a bizarre take but does shed light on all the pretend Pubs who are just waiting for Trump to leave so they can resume pretending to care about these issues without getting called out.

I can certainly understand those folks not caring for Trump personally but Trump shouldn't have to beg Pubs to support whats been a pretty consistently conservative agenda.

MGT especially has been treated as a left wing joke for years and it didn't seem to bother her, yet Trump calls her out and suddenly she's on the other team because hes mean to her? Spare me.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:11 pm to
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So if someone calls you a name youre gonna suddenly become a Democrat?


Thats not whats happening. Trump is left of most of those he attacks, while he clings to Establishment types like Lindsey Graham.

When your leader pushes away the Massies and Pauls for Graham, youre on the wrong side of it all.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112915 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:11 pm to
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This gridlock is the predictable result of electing a man who has no understanding of the legislative process.


This statement presumes the existence of a "process"

5 bills

5

Not even double digits.

The law does not require a person to perform a vain or useless act.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
28500 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:14 pm to
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On almost every initiative, Trump has faced a choice between a faster, flashier approach (likely to generate a judicial response) and a slower, methodical approach (less likely to do so).

Why does Trump uniformly pursue the first option, when the second is far more likely to be effective in the long run?

My personal theory is that he is just addicted to cheering crowds and chaos, but I admittedly do not like the man.

Is there some other reasonable explanation for his seemingly-counterproductive approach to almost every issue?

You seem to want us to believe that these people would deal with President Trump in good faith. Why not negotiate from your high mark; the opposition is always going to say no immediately. "He's addicted to cheers and chaos," Chicken Little says. The President is addicted to winning and making the deal. The long run is for the deep staters, rinos, commies, and other snakes.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2558 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:16 pm to
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5 bills

5
And it is entirely reasonable, IMO, to ask whether this pathetic number is a direct result of Trump's approach to governance.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19524 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:29 pm to
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On almost every initiative, Trump has faced a choice between a faster, flashier approach (likely to generate a judicial response) and a slower, methodical approach (less likely to do so).

Why does Trump uniformly pursue the first option, when the second is far more likely to be effective in the long run?
why do Dimocrats call him, and all his voters in a blanket application, a Nazi after trying to silence, imprison, bankrupt, and kill them?
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2558 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:30 pm to
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why do Dimocrats call him, and all his voters in a blanket application, a Nazi after trying to silence, imprison, bankrupt, and kill them?
I've no idea.

Maybe you should start a thread and ask that question.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2032 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:35 pm to
better idea you can eat schit aggiehank.

you're not fooling anybody hank are you still queer?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10859 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:39 pm to
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His full throttle style keeps his opponents off balance.


I do think there is some truth to this.

He has moved so fast on so many things this term and I do think that's part of the deliberate strategy. To throw so much at the wall that there is no way for opponents to catch it all.

I also do think that he wants unilateral control, is frustrated when he doesn't have it, and is pushing as hard as he can to expand executive powers for that reason.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2558 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:42 pm to
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quote:

His full throttle style keeps his opponents off balance.
I do think there is some truth to this.

He has moved so fast on so many things this term and I do think that's part of the deliberate strategy. To throw so much at the wall that there is no way for opponents to catch it all.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10859 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:43 pm to
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You seem to want us to believe that these people would deal with President Trump in good faith.


Ah, no. That's the point. If Congress does these things, they are far more permanent than if Trump just signs an EO.

quote:

The President is addicted to claiming he won and getting credit for making the deal.


FIFY.

quote:

The long run is for the deep staters, rinos, commies, and other snakes.


No, the long run is for the American people. The short term is for Trump.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10859 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:44 pm to
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RelentlessAnalysis


O.k., but if true, the motion is the point. It's a misdirection strategy.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:45 pm to
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why do Dimocrats call him, and all his voters in a blanket application, a Nazi


The same reason y'all call anyone who disagrees with Trump a RINO
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112915 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:50 pm to
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And it is entirely reasonable, IMO, to ask whether this pathetic number is a direct result of Trump's approach to governance.


Good Lord.

You do realize that the President does not introduce legislation, right?
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2558 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

quote:

You seem to want us to believe that these people would deal with President Trump in good faith.
Ah, no. That's the point. If Congress does these things, they are far more permanent than if Trump just signs an EO.
This "Department of War" nonsense is a perfect example.

Apparently, Trump DID listem to someone who understands the law better than him, and his actions DO take into account the fact that the Department of Defense is the statutory name of the Department. The Executive can NOT change it. So he issues an EO designating "Deparment of War" as a SECONDARY name for the Department AND requiring everyone in his administration to use the secondary name, rather than the primary/statutory name.

The estimated cost of that silliness is $2 billion (billion with a "B"), and it will be reversed by his successor on the day he leaves office.

And his loyal supporters love it.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85915 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:53 pm to
Alters always go the long way to get to wtf they actually want to fricking bitch about.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2558 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:54 pm to
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Good Lord.

You do realize that the President does not introduce legislation, right?
Every POTUS in modern history has entered office with a legislative agenda and a team in place to work with Congress to move that agenda forward.

Trump's approach is to verbally bully and insult Congress ... even those in his own party.

Is it really any wonder that they are not moving his agenda for him?
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 11:26 am
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
85915 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 1:55 pm to
Just keep bitching after you have a few years to enjoy it
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10859 posts
Posted on 12/12/25 at 10:25 pm to
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And his loyal supporters love it.


While simultaneously moaning, complaining, bitching, wheezing, snoring, and making any other noise they can make about foreign aid, which typically comprises less than 1% of the federal budget.

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