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Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:03 am to 8thyearsenior
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You people are fricking too stupid to even be sheep.
Well, then it's good to know that it doesn't bother you that nobody gives a shite what you think.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 5:28 am to rds dc
It's pretty clear from where I'm sitting that elements of the DOJ are still working against President Trump.
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Posted on 1/28/18 at 5:35 am to Rougarou13
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Sorry. It’s just a pet peeve of mine.
You really should keep it locked up.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:14 am to rds dc
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It may not be obvious, but there are lots of signs that numerous GOPe types are now fully behind Trump.
Yea no shite
When the president backs off his number 1 promise to propose legislation for term limits and no longer wants to drain the swamp it was only a matter of time before he laid in bed with the GOPe
Posted on 1/28/18 at 9:19 am to Magician2
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When the president backs off his number 1 promise to propose legislation for term limit
What evidence do you have to support such a statement?
Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:30 pm to RazorBroncs
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I think you misunderstood what the letter was saying or how the gang of eight works there buddy.
Nope.
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Seeking Committee approval of public release would require HPSCI committee members to vote on a staff drafted memorandum that purports to be based on classified source materials that neither you nor most of them have seen.
If Nunes has seen the source material, he's a fricking idiot for not refuting this claim as loudly and publicly as possible.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:39 pm to TigerGhazi
Dude, you're wrong and a simple Google search will give you all the answers you need. Nunes has had all of the FISA and FISC documentation since at least January 3rd, and thousands of other documents well before then. He is one of the few in the Intel committee that has access to all documentation across the branches of Govt. He's working to release all of this documentation to the other 435 representatives to back up his memo as we speak.
Once the House Intelligence Committee votes to declassify the four-page memo, the White House, National Security Adviser (H.R. McMaster) and National Security Council will have five days to review the content. The White House will likely have a brief review by the NSC and the Office of Legal Counsel of the content, and then issue approval for the release.
It is not just this declassification (of the memo) that goes through this process, all declassification goes through this process. In this example, presumably, the President has no adverse reason to block the declassification request and it is likely all approvals will happen quite quickly.
After the White House approves of the HPSCI request, the Memo then becomes public.
That’s when Democrats will attack the memo as being authored and misrepresented by Chairman Devin Nunes. This is the politics.
If/when this happens (highly likely it will), Chairman Nunes will then request the entire House of Representatives be given the opportunity to see the underlying FISA documentation that led to the summary. (BECAUSE IT'S IN HIS POSSESSION)
The underlying FISA documentation likely includes the DOJ/FBI FISA application as presented to the FISA court; again, likely to include the “Clinton/Steele Dossier”.
Additionally, the FISA-702 raw data will include the FBI “searches” on Trump officials that led to the upstream collection of information and the subsequent “unmasking” of Trump officials.
Releasing the underlying FISA documentation -that proves the Nunes FISA memo- will likely follow a similar path as the Nunes memo itself. Again, this is a process, and within each of these processes there are revelations as to the scope of the corruption and conspiracy.
And this is just Devin Nunes."
And another:
According to information provided to The Daily Caller, today Chairman Devin Nunes received the FISA Application and Steele Dossier documentation from Asst. AG Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray. This includes the critical FD-302’s and FD-1023’s that relate to interviews with Christopher Steele and his Russian Dossier.
The committee was able to review Friday all FBI and DOJ documents on the Trump dossier, former MI-6 British agent Christopher Steele who authored the dossier, and Fusion GPS, the political opposition firm that hired Steele.
DOJ also provided Obama administration applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which could approve the surveillance of the Trump transition team, according to a source with direct knowledge of the case.
?The FD-302 is an FBI form that is used to document interviews/interrogations. It details questions asked and answers given as well as who was present during the interview.
?The FD-1023 is an FBI form that is uses to document meetings between FBI and sources. It does not necessarily discuss what was said. It is also called a CHS Report. (Confidential Human Source).
The 1023 gives extensive detail about the informant and what is to be asked, as well as ‘by whom’ and ‘where’ and ‘when’. However, it does not give the informants answers or details of the meeting. That is where the 302 comes in. The 302 reveals the content of interview, as well as identifies all participants.
The Steele Dossier 302’s and 1023’s will identify people involved on both sides; the informants (sources) and the DOJ/FBI personnel in contact with the sources. This is a critical part of the investigative material needed around the DOJ (National Security Division) and FBI (Counterintelligence Division) likely use of the Steele Dossier in the FISA application.
According to the Daily Caller information Nunes also gained the documents underlying the critically interesting DOJ/FBI FISA Application.
In addition, if the Nunes information request is filled as outlined in his letter (reminder below), the Chairman either has, or soon will have, the complete set of 9,500 text messages between Counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page.
Once the House Intelligence Committee votes to declassify the four-page memo, the White House, National Security Adviser (H.R. McMaster) and National Security Council will have five days to review the content. The White House will likely have a brief review by the NSC and the Office of Legal Counsel of the content, and then issue approval for the release.
It is not just this declassification (of the memo) that goes through this process, all declassification goes through this process. In this example, presumably, the President has no adverse reason to block the declassification request and it is likely all approvals will happen quite quickly.
After the White House approves of the HPSCI request, the Memo then becomes public.
That’s when Democrats will attack the memo as being authored and misrepresented by Chairman Devin Nunes. This is the politics.
If/when this happens (highly likely it will), Chairman Nunes will then request the entire House of Representatives be given the opportunity to see the underlying FISA documentation that led to the summary. (BECAUSE IT'S IN HIS POSSESSION)
The underlying FISA documentation likely includes the DOJ/FBI FISA application as presented to the FISA court; again, likely to include the “Clinton/Steele Dossier”.
Additionally, the FISA-702 raw data will include the FBI “searches” on Trump officials that led to the upstream collection of information and the subsequent “unmasking” of Trump officials.
Releasing the underlying FISA documentation -that proves the Nunes FISA memo- will likely follow a similar path as the Nunes memo itself. Again, this is a process, and within each of these processes there are revelations as to the scope of the corruption and conspiracy.
And this is just Devin Nunes."
And another:
According to information provided to The Daily Caller, today Chairman Devin Nunes received the FISA Application and Steele Dossier documentation from Asst. AG Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray. This includes the critical FD-302’s and FD-1023’s that relate to interviews with Christopher Steele and his Russian Dossier.
The committee was able to review Friday all FBI and DOJ documents on the Trump dossier, former MI-6 British agent Christopher Steele who authored the dossier, and Fusion GPS, the political opposition firm that hired Steele.
DOJ also provided Obama administration applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which could approve the surveillance of the Trump transition team, according to a source with direct knowledge of the case.
?The FD-302 is an FBI form that is used to document interviews/interrogations. It details questions asked and answers given as well as who was present during the interview.
?The FD-1023 is an FBI form that is uses to document meetings between FBI and sources. It does not necessarily discuss what was said. It is also called a CHS Report. (Confidential Human Source).
The 1023 gives extensive detail about the informant and what is to be asked, as well as ‘by whom’ and ‘where’ and ‘when’. However, it does not give the informants answers or details of the meeting. That is where the 302 comes in. The 302 reveals the content of interview, as well as identifies all participants.
The Steele Dossier 302’s and 1023’s will identify people involved on both sides; the informants (sources) and the DOJ/FBI personnel in contact with the sources. This is a critical part of the investigative material needed around the DOJ (National Security Division) and FBI (Counterintelligence Division) likely use of the Steele Dossier in the FISA application.
According to the Daily Caller information Nunes also gained the documents underlying the critically interesting DOJ/FBI FISA Application.
In addition, if the Nunes information request is filled as outlined in his letter (reminder below), the Chairman either has, or soon will have, the complete set of 9,500 text messages between Counterintelligence agent Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page.
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