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Trending African American Unemployment Rates

Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:00 am
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
5637 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:00 am
I will readily concede that what we are seeing is a continuation of a trend that started during the Obama administration. In my mind it has less to do with Obama policies and more to do with a return to normalcy subsequent to a major economic disruption.

My question is this - Even if Trump is not solely responsible for the positive results that have been achieved in the past year, if he was truly in it to hurt black Americans then why a continuation of the trend?

A visual -
Posted by Rover Range
Member since Jun 2014
2768 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:06 am to
A lot of "obama gone but me a house and a new charja" in 2008. Slowly realizing that isn't going to happen. Leading us up to today where "Betta get a job. Trump gone take yo food stamps"
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45767 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:07 am to
If they're off the streets working, it's only because white cops kill blacks if they're on the street. Get your message straight, man.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24742 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:07 am to
Damn, what happened from 2008-2010?

Hmmmm
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
5637 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:09 am to
a bubble popped, it hit everybody

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95633 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:11 am to
2008-2010 is what happens when idiots attempt to tell everyone what to do instead of getting out of the way.

Picking winners and losers also greatly undermines the economy. The GM bankruptcy where bond holders got screwed in favor of the unions comes to mind.

Who in their right mind would buy bonds in a union company in danger of failing if they weren’t going to be treated as secured debt?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24742 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:14 am to
Looks like Obama had the unemployment trend lowering at a decent rate.

Unless there is something I'm missing, he should get credit for that.

I still think Obama was a treasonous president though. Too many things happened under him.

I will always believe he knew exactly what the IRS was doing to battle conservative groups. I never even heard him address that topic when it happened. That's very dangerous, and that to me is an actual impeachable offense.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 11:19 am
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
5637 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:28 am to
Everything reverts to the mean, Obama deserves credit for not maintaining an undesirable rate of unemployment but when looking at things holistically he borrowed a lot to accomplish it (see: national debt), average wages were in decline (jobs not great), and the average household debt increased (iphones are a birthright).
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 11:30 am
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:02 pm to
quote:

Looks like Obama had the unemployment trend lowering at a decent rate.

Unless there is something I'm missing, he should get credit for that.

23 million people lost their jobs between 2008-2010. Of course unemployment has steadily dropped since.

From 2008-2016, our government spent ~$30 trillion dollars, $6 trillion of which was newly printed money out of thin air that went to bailing out over 900 companies and banks.

During those 8 years, average income dropped, the middle class shrunk, the impoverished class grew, and more people were on welfare in 2016 than there were in 2008.

Innovation and R&D stagnated. Businesses were inundated and bogged down with absurd over-regulation. Tens of thousands of companies went out of business. Tens of thousands of companies moved out of the US to maintain a base of operations in a foreign country. US dollars remitted out of the US and into foreign banks at faster rates than ever before. Over $3 trillion of which is still out there overseas.

Tax revenues went up, but so did spending (and that's an understatement). But all that added spending did nothing to foster growth. GDP averaged 2.3%. And in 2015 and 2016 it averaged only 1.8%.

The stock market took 8 years to go up 10,000 points, and actually only went up a whopping 500 points from Jan 2015 to Nov 2016. That's 2 years of stagnant economy and flat markets.

The national debt went from ~$9 trillion to ~$20 trillion. That's how much we spent above tax revenues. And what's to show for it? Unemployment returning to the mean before the housing bubble burst?

Where's the $11 trillion Obama added to the debt?

Where's the $5 trillion QE he printed out of thin air?

How do you spend $30 trillion over 8 years and all you have to show for it is unemployment getting back to it's mean and 2 straight final years of 1.8% GDP growth and +500 points in the stock market to end your presidency?

What exactly are we supposed to give Obama credit for?
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 12:05 pm
Posted by TigersInParis
Member since Nov 2017
311 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:27 pm to
quote:

I will always believe he knew exactly what the IRS was doing to battle conservative groups.


Lol, sure. The one thing I don’t get about Obama’s evil master plan to weaponize the IRS is why the IRS, under his administration, went after liberal and progressive groups so much more than conservative ones? Seems odd.

Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:30 pm to
I love that your thread is trying to defend Trump but is still getting downvotes from people too illiterate or buttmad to finish reading the question framing
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 12:31 pm
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
5637 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:28 pm to
It is truly something

Really not defending trump, I do support him but that is irrelevant. Just looking at data objectively and asking the simple question.
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
5637 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:30 pm to
Because they are corrupt and their transgressions are too obvious to ignore in a transparent environment?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140482 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:33 pm to
Oh the horror, 9 downvotes.

White Beans, I know you are going to survive it but if this ever bothers you so much that you need help overcoming 9 whole downvotes, I'm here for you.

It should be clear that this is not a dig at you.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8144 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Even if Trump is not solely responsible for the positive results that have been achieved in the past year, if he was truly in it to hurt black Americans then why a continuation of the trend?

Don’t present facts like this to a liberal. It’s like trying to herd cats.
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