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re: TPUSA has challenged Candace Owen’s to a live stream debate

Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:55 pm to
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I suspect that there are plausible, innocent answers to these questions. It will be nice to hear them.


Frank Turek has answered all of them already.

If you don't know who Frank Turek is, he's an author, speaker, Christian apologist, Charlie Kirk's close friend and mentor, and he was there. He was one of the men who picked Charlie up and rode to the hospital with his body.

In fact, he was the "guy in the white hat" whom the idiots (probably some of whom are on this thread) of the world accused of "giving signals to the shooter" directly following the shooting.

If you really want answers, just look him up on YouTube.

Posted by 632627
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:58 pm to
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There is no reason for anyone to platform Candace at this point


Agree 100%.

At this point, anyone coddling, co-op ting, or buddying up with Candace is 100% full of shite.

I'm talking about folks like Tucker, Dave smith, jimmy Dore, etc. I've even seen the young turks trying to legitimize her claims recently. All these people are fricking losers.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
610 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:59 pm to
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How much of that $80M came in from selling at the memorial? I think selling merch at a memorial is gauche. I would guess well under 1% of that $80M was from sales at the memorial.


I have no idea but your estimate seems right.

Look, in a capitalist country expect capitalism, good bad or indifferent.

I’ve listened to Candace maybe 2 times to see what all the fuss is about and while she generally has an engaging personality I grow bored with all the dead-end speculation. I can also tell Candace is clearly very emotional about Charlie’s murder. She acts like Charlie was her first crush and if you’ve seen some 10-12 year old video of her and Charlie there are several instances where she gazes at him while he speaks like she’s in love with him. Couple those emotions with postpartum hormones…that’s a dangerous combination.

The good news is Candace and TPUSA folks look like they will meet face to face and talk it out. It will be good ratings for both parties.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10388 posts
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:10 pm to
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That’s the entire point you missed. She doesn’t TRUST the authorities, and I do believe that’s a genuine feeling of hers. I don’t think she makes her lack of trust up. By nature, I don’t take most things at face value either, and I have very little confidence in our intelligence agencies. For example, I don’t think the roof was “too sloped.” I see where she’s coming from, and to an extent I can relate. Who knows if any of her unanswered questions are on to something or not? Several of her questions are valid though…..


In our populist and internet age, way too many people think that "being skeptical" makes them more intelligent than average.

That's honestly the product Candace is selling, whether she's sincere or more like Huckster Carlson, whom I don't believe for a second is sincere about the nonsense he puts out there.

Honestly and sincerely "being skeptical" means raising questions based on something that actually happened that seems like a contradiction.

That's not what people do anymore. It's definitely not what she does.

She STARTS with the premise that the official narrative MUST BE false and then cherry picks any and all data she can find that she can manufacture a completely imagined motive and theory out of.

It's just a complete exercise in begging the question. Start with the conclusion (false "official" narrative) and find data to support that conclusion.

That's not skepticism. It's cynicism. Skepticism is neutral and useful in discovering the truth. Cynicism is highly biased and tends to obscure the truth.

At this point there's not nearly enough information to "be skeptical" of anything, nor will there be until after the shooter's trial. For very obvious reasons, prosecutors will hold back the evidence they have until then.

That's not nefarious, suspicious, odd, or out of the ordinary. It's SOP.

You can't even "be skeptical" yet. You don't even know what the evidence is.

If you are buying into any of this nonsense at this point in the game, you've already accepted a conclusion and are working backwards to try to substantiate it. Just like Candace.

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