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re: Tim Pool states the obvious and you all are falling for it hook, line, and sinker

Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:48 pm to
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:48 pm to
Musk et al want it to be 300k-400k visas per year.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 5:49 pm to
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Careful there Dude. Your true colors are beginning to show here.


Being against increasing H-1B Visas so corporations can fire American Workers for cheaper labor? Yeah...You busted me. I am MAGA/American First and always will be. So get use to it...I am not changing because Elon who didn't join the team until 4 months before the election after Trump was shot wants cheaper labor. That might be your character but it's not mine.
Posted by LookSquirrel
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:02 pm to
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Being against increasing H-1B Visas so corporations can fire American Workers for cheaper labor?


No, that's what "illegal immigration" is for.

This is "supposed" to be about allowing the best and brightest to be allowed to contribute to America's ability to succeed.

I expect the Trump administration to address those who abuse it.

Think Einstein
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:05 pm to
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This is "supposed" to be about allowing the best and brightest to be allowed to contribute to America's ability to succeed.


That’s what the O-1 visa is for.
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:07 pm to
Elon could throw cold water on it but his tweets are encouraging it
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:08 pm to
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I do think that companies should be required to pay them the same as American workers to ensure that they aren't abusing it for cheap labor though


This is a serious queation. They get paid less on average? Cause Penrod claims he owned a company and its illegal to do that. Is that true?

Then Kilroy complains about them undercutting then you go to ziprecruiter and in Houston the postion he claimed getting like 120k was all being offered at 65-110k there was about 1200 jobs. He said Elon gives them 80k to be cheap

None of this makes sense
Cause it seems ppl are claimimg they are hiring less qualfied ppl for the same cost

Sirwinstons post was spot on
Posted by David_DJS
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:10 pm to
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This is a serious queation. They get paid less on average? Cause Penrod claims he owned a company and its illegal to do that. Is that true?

They're both true.

It's illegal to pay less but it's done all the time, as the data proves.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:12 pm to
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This is "supposed" to be about allowing the best and brightest to be allowed to contribute to America's ability to succeed.


Its not...This has nothing to do with best and brightest. O-1 Visas are used for that. The H-1B Visas are used to import less talented workers for cheaper cost to the corporations at the expense of American Workers. Trump admitted that. It's not America First Policy

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Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:13 pm to
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100k


quote:

large sums of money


Does not compute.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:14 pm to
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This is a serious queation. They get paid less on average? Cause Penrod claims he owned a company and its illegal to do that. Is that true?



Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:14 pm to
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They're both true.

It's illegal to pay less but it's done all the time, as the data proves.


What does the data say about how much less they get paid?

Im talking IT Tech Engineers. Then lets discuss the the top .1% cause what salaries do Americans get vs H1 in those specific roles?

Is there data on that?

Posted by boomtown143
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:14 pm to
Well, if Tim Pool said it!!!!


Get lost douche
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:15 pm to
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Elon could throw cold water on it but his tweets are encouraging it


He loves the drama particularly when he controls it.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:18 pm to
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Then lets discuss the the top .1% cause what salaries do Americans get vs H1 in those specific roles?

The H1B visa program is not about the top .1%.

quote:

Im talking IT Tech Engineers

Look at the post right above yours.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:20 pm to
Just went to ziprecruiter

5k software engineer jobs for americans. Ranging from 114k to 160k

So these H1bs are getting paid more than some Americans?

Heres a company less than H1B for a Sr Software Engineer

quote:

Senior Software Engineer


Employment Type

Full-Time

Benefits Offered

Medical, Paid Time Off, Retirement

Compensation

$90,000 to $130,000 per year



Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:22 pm to
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The H1B visa program is not about the top .1%


Sure. But we are talking about Vivek and Elon. Theh specifically said it should be about the .1% and the rest of the BS should be cut out

Yet we have had a glorious meltdown
Posted by momentoftruth87
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:24 pm to
David is special. He just argues to participate
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:25 pm to
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5k software engineer jobs for americans. Ranging from 114k to 160k


Who said these jobs were for americans?
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
93377 posts
Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:33 pm to
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Who said these jobs were for americans?


Ziprecruiter is for foreigners only?
Posted by LookSquirrel
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Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 12/28/24 at 6:55 pm to
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That’s what the O-1 visa is for.


I stand corrected.

Although it is supposed to be for American companies to hire highly skilled foreign workers in specialized occupations. Usually requiring a college degree.

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