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re: Tim Kaine tweets that the airstrikes are illegal

Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by 03GeeTee
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:42 pm to
Lol someone should explain to him that Trump wouldn’t need approval to attack North Korea either because the war technically never ended.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:45 pm to
I actually agree with him. Now where was this pussy when Obama did the same thing?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98305 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:47 pm to
As stated upthread, he was against Obama doing the same thing.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34045 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

Congress needs to sack up and take back some of its Constitutional authority from the executive branch, including the bit about declaring war. The Founders didn't intend for one man to have the power to authorize acts of war by himself.


Agreed. While I agree with the strikes this has been abused for years
Posted by RentSeekAndDestroy
Member since Mar 2018
602 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:49 pm to
There wasn’t congressional approval back in ‘13 either. Was it illegal then?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67196 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:50 pm to
Not true. War Powers Act authorizes presidential action without the consent of Congress for up to 60 days. The president then has to get authorization within that time frame or cease hostilities. Barack Obama took similar action in Libya under the War Powers Act without a Use of Force Authorization from Congress. However, not only did Barack Obama never go back and request authorization after the fact, he also refused to disengage forces well past the 60 day requirement, a clear violation. Nothing happened. Tim Kaine certainty didn't speak out against it (Rand Paul did speak out as per usual).
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 11:52 pm
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12084 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:51 pm to
I will tip my hat to Kaine on this one, atleast he is consistent on this Topic. And isn't just grandstanding to try and score cheap points.

NPR... i know gross. But interview transcript with Tim Kaine on Obama/Syria

On Obama actions in syria, and lack of approval from congress.


quote:

We're in an undeclared war that the president started on August 8, 2014 and that Congress has refused to debate and vote on it as the Constitution requires. But as the ISIL threat and this U.S. involvement continues to expand, I do think Congress is going to have to confront and really engage with the administration on what the strategy is and how much of it we are willing to authorize.





EDIT: Got damnit, im late to post. But i'll leave it up as record of my give props to Kaine on remaining true to his position on the matter regardless of party. I can appreciate that. Never thought I'd give him any kudos, but there it is.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 11:53 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:53 pm to
The only reason anyone gets accepted to Ivy League professional schools is because of great connections, zero to do with talent, intelligence or aptitude hence Tim Kaine
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147208 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:56 pm to
This little retarded pussy footed marxist POS needs to take it up with Mattis he cited they did this mission properly and by the book.

Frick this divisive trifling crap. He got his talking points from Pelosi because they can't EVER just be Americans.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29179 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:57 pm to
quote:

He is as consistent on opposing Presidents waging war as is Rand Paul. He was one of the few Democrats who was outspoken in his criticism of Obama and HRC for their invasion of Libya and support for regime change. I was shocked when he was chosen as HRC's nominee for VP.


Because he stepped down as DNC chair so DWS could be named and the Clinton Cartel could control the DNC. It was promised to him in 2011.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:59 pm to
Kaine’s Just posturing for the contrarian liberals, him being a lawyer he knows the law just manipulating people, is what it is
Posted by thetigerman
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Member since Sep 2006
3630 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:01 am to
Even if we establish that the air strikes are illegal, just WHO exactly is going to do WHAT about it?
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76517 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:26 am to
quote:

He tweeted that with a lisp.



Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71560 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:32 am to
Global war on terror

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Posted by Terry the Tiger
Cypress, Texas
Member since Jul 2009
3494 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:46 am to
So is President Trump supposed to wait for a Congressional vote when Russia or North Korea launches nuclear weapons at us? We have 2,000 troops in Syria. Maybe he was trying to protect those troops from a possible chemical attack.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 12:51 am to
President’s the Commander in Chief for a reason, Congress doesn’t consist of generals and military people, WTH do they know about leading the armed forces? Common sense, everybody
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 1:01 am to
Well, he's fricking right. American presidents have ignored that requirement for the past 20 years though.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 1:03 am to
One of the more ignorant posts I've seen.
Posted by thomass
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 1:06 am to
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 1:07 am to
You’re only saying that because you know how awesome my post was and wish you posted something that exceeded it, it’s cool it’s life
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