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TIL that Ben Franklin wanted Moses drowning Pharoah's armies in Exodus on the US Seal

Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:05 pm


Wish they went with this design instead. The scene shows the waters of the Red Sea drowning Ramesses and his army after Moses and the Hebrews made it across to Israel. Also featured is the Pillar of Fire, showing that Moses acted under the command of God.
This post was edited on 3/3/19 at 8:06 pm
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:07 pm to
Revistionist history .... but I like it and wish Ben had gotten his way.
Posted by Caplewood
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:08 pm to
America: sucking off Israel since 1776
This post was edited on 3/3/19 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:09 pm to
Heathen
Posted by CamdenTiger
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:11 pm to
Trump taking out Socialism on the next mint upgrade....
Posted by Stingray
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:15 pm to
Think maybe some slave owners had a problem with this one?
Posted by 6R12
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:17 pm to
Hey go Cap-a-wood
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

Wish they went with this design instead. The scene shows the waters of the Red Sea drowning Ramesses and his army after Moses and the Hebrews made it across to Israel. Also featured is the Pillar of Fire, showing that Moses acted under the command of God.

I would have gone with had gone rather than "went" but the Pharaoh could have made it way easier on himself. But the big thing, your geography is way off. You think the Jews crossed the Red Sea and were in Israel? That took 40 years.
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:19 pm to
Would support
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:20 pm to
frick magical thinking.
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:23 pm to
Makes sense.

Dude was Illuminati.
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:28 pm to
quote:

Think maybe some slave owners had a problem with this one?


Yeah, Democrats would have an issue with it.
Posted by Jorts R Us
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:28 pm to
That motto is also on Thomas Jefferson’s personal seal. I wonder who championed it first.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:29 pm to
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frick magical thinking.

When you type “magical thinking” you mean like ...

.... man made climate change crisis?

.... white man evil and bad?

.... socialism works?

.... little 100 pound women can take karate class, don cape, and beat up a half dozen special ops (white) bad guys?

..... Russian Collusion?

..... every good (partnered) couple in America votes progressive, is interracial and has gay or gender non-specific kids?

.... or just about everything CNN and MSNBC reports?

Which “magical thinking” were you referring to?

Shall we go on?
This post was edited on 3/3/19 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:29 pm to
quote:

I would have gone with had gone rather than "went" but the Pharaoh could have made it way easier on himself. But the big thing, your geography is way off. You think the Jews crossed the Red Sea and were in Israel? That took 40 years.


I didn't study in a seminary. Nice derail attempt though.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:31 pm to
Just goes to show you he was a globalist that supported Israel

ETA: is there any proof for the Red Sea incident? I feel like they exaggerate the stories about their history
This post was edited on 3/3/19 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

Dude was Illuminati.


He was certainly big into the Freemason movement. Been to and stood over his grave site in a downtown cemetery in Philadelphia. Crazy city but full of history.
Posted by Diamondawg
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

I didn't study in a seminary. Nice derail attempt though.
Nor did I. Slightly accurate information tends to lend to one's credibility, though.
Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:46 pm to
quote:

quote:

I would have gone with had gone rather than "went" but the Pharaoh could have made it way easier on himself. But the big thing, your geography is way off. You think the Jews crossed the Red Sea and were in Israel? That took 40 years.
I didn't study in a seminary. Nice derail attempt though.

. . . technically Moses didn't do the drowning. That was done by a much higher power and no (me know) seminary either.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 3/3/19 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

ETA: is there any proof for the Red Sea incident? I feel like they exaggerate the stories about their history


Some scholars think it was actually the Reed Sea, which was shallow enough for sustained winds to clear a path. But it still would have been divine intervention.

(Assuming you were serious about the question.)
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