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re: Thoughts on 9/11
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:55 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:55 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Not to mention the very obvious fact that as many government workers and beuaracats as it would have taken to pull something like that off, there is NOWAY it could have been kept a secret, just no way.
No everyone in government know everything....When we perform covert opts, it's not like a memo it sent around to everyone...
Plus, there is money to be made in war, so it was a prelude to an unjust war.
Not sure how true this movie is, but it is awfully close to being accurate....
LINK
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:03 am to BugAC
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This. The intellectual gap from some of you is amazing. I hope your are just stupid young kids that have never taken basic physics classes.
You know NIST refused to open source their FEA simulation of Building 7?
That means NIST refused to disclose the computer inputs of its mathematical models.
I've built FEA models of different structural systems. You can make it work. In fact for my senior project (many years ago) I developed over 20 simulations for my professor to present to a jury in a court case involving a ladder failure. Some fat guy wanted money for getting hurt because of one of the rails failed. I came up with 20 different scenarios of potential failure and the chances of one of those scenarios being the exact situation is very low.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:04 am to LaTexSaint
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No everyone in government know everything....When we perform covert opts, it's not like a memo it sent around to everyone...
Dude come on, for an operation that size at least a thousand people would have to have been involved, and at least one of them would have talked by now. That's human nature.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:05 am to bmy
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Letting something happen doesn't take many people.. E.g. making the call to ignore intelligence even if you are aware of a plot.
I'm not saying the government orchestrated 9/11.. but that they probably let it happen to garner support for a middle east campaign.
This is the only conspiracy theory I would entertain.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:07 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Dude come on, for an operation that size at least a thousand people would have to have been involved, and at least one of them would have talked by now. That's human nature.
The guy who plugged Bin Laden couldn't even keep his mouth shut
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:08 am to upgrayedd
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This is the only conspiracy theory I would entertain.
Conspiracy by omission. Interesting.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:09 am to GumboPot
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Conspiracy by omission. Interesting.
Why do you say that?
It's easily the most plausible one.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:11 am to LaTexSaint
In the end, I have know way of proving that 9/11 is true or fake....
I know what we were told and parts of it just doesn't make sense to me.
Ah well...
I know what we were told and parts of it just doesn't make sense to me.
Ah well...
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:13 am to upgrayedd
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The guy who plugged Bin Laden couldn't even keep his mouth shut
No doubt, do you have any idea the size of the book deal a guy who could prove he was involved in a government false flag operation on 9/11 could get? Probably $100M at minimum.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:14 am to LaTexSaint
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I know what we were told and parts of it just doesn't make sense to me.
An unprecedented terrorist attack has aspects of it that are hard to understand?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:15 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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No doubt, do you have any idea the size of the book deal a guy who could prove he was involved in a government false flag operation on 9/11 could get? Probably $100M at minimum.
As many people in politics that hated Bush, they couldn't come up with one whistle blower to take him down?
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:15 am to BugAC
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Sorry for calling some of you retards. It’s just frustrating trying to talk logic to conspiracy theorists.
Its ok... But it doesnt bode well for your argument when you have to resort to name calling. Ignore the botched 9/11 commission report. Im just interested in some short meaningful dialogue on points of view on the 2 things already discussed that seem easiest to debate with the video evidence being present and all. That being WTC7 and the Pentagon.
You mentioned security footage as proof in an earlier post... have you seen clearer security footage anywhere than the following? This is the best I found The 1:25-1:26 mark... I dont see the evidence unless this is the worlds smallest plane, doctored footage (but why release it then), or some extremely skilled pilots were dealing with here. The $2.3 trillion thing is also reason to be skeptical about this one.
And also about the WTC7 across the street collapsing from building 1 & 2. Why if maybe the collapse of the other two caused the collapse of building 7 across the street did no other buildings in the surrounding area come to their demise too? Logically speaking of course... and what about BBC reporting on the collapse of building 7 before it happened? How does that get explained away with logic? LINK
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:16 am to upgrayedd
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Why do you say that?
Because I can't answer all the questions concerning the theorized operation of toppling the buildings.
The reason why there is so much disagreement on this topic is due to the lack of transparency and a lot of evidence that is insufficiently explained.
Conspiracy by looking the other way or by omission kind of answers that question of how was it pulled off? They (government officials) looked the other way.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:19 am to saints5021
I can’t make sense of the WHY
But this is actual footage of “art students’ ” helicopter photoshoot project from the 91st floor of the World Trade Center on August 18th, 2001
It’s bizarre watching excited New Yorkers step up to the window ledge for their photos from the helicopter.
Notice the framing of the ceiling and walls is exposed in the room. These “students” were living there. Why? And why was the framing exposed?
This is just the beginning of the rabbit hole of these art students.
Here’s an article dated March 2002 about 200 arrests being made
The article states that Israeli students were given access to Govt buildings and homes etc
I think the “art students” were some of those who were arrested
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/1387069/US-arrests-200-young-Israelis-in-spying-investigation.html
Below are a few pictures of them in the WTC and the boxes of the bb18 fuses. I think these “students” set up the demolition type of explosives in the towers.
Whether you are convinced of these students’ involvement or not, anyone with eyes can see that the buildings fell EXACTLY like buildings do when they undergo controlled demolition. The plane did not take down those buildings.
But this is actual footage of “art students’ ” helicopter photoshoot project from the 91st floor of the World Trade Center on August 18th, 2001
It’s bizarre watching excited New Yorkers step up to the window ledge for their photos from the helicopter.
Notice the framing of the ceiling and walls is exposed in the room. These “students” were living there. Why? And why was the framing exposed?
This is just the beginning of the rabbit hole of these art students.
Here’s an article dated March 2002 about 200 arrests being made
The article states that Israeli students were given access to Govt buildings and homes etc
I think the “art students” were some of those who were arrested
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/1387069/US-arrests-200-young-Israelis-in-spying-investigation.html
Below are a few pictures of them in the WTC and the boxes of the bb18 fuses. I think these “students” set up the demolition type of explosives in the towers.
Whether you are convinced of these students’ involvement or not, anyone with eyes can see that the buildings fell EXACTLY like buildings do when they undergo controlled demolition. The plane did not take down those buildings.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 11:29 am
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:20 am to GumboPot
I've heard every argument on both sides and I've yet to see a truther conspiracy other than the "they knowingly let it happen" have any sort of credibility. People that can't figure out exactly what happened automatically fill in the gaps with some nefarious plot. It's lazy, but they feel it gives them the answers they crave.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:25 am to saints5021
One of the most puzzling questions is all these saudis involved and yet we have not dropped one bomb on the house of Saudi
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:28 am to GumboPot
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Conspiracy by omission. Interesting.
Check out Pearl Harbor.. the McCollum memo specifically..
"It is not believed that in the present state of political opinion the United States government is capable of declaring war against Japan without more ado [...] If by [the elucidated eight-point plan] Japan could be led to commit an overt act of war, so much the better."
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:28 am to upgrayedd
I disagree. I don’t have the answers I crave, but I know these art students were shady as all ever. Watch the video. What was that for? I still don’t understand why they did this us, but it seems these students were the ones who wired the controlled demolition type of explosives. Who were they were working for?
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 11:30 am
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:31 am to upgrayedd
I've always had the question of why WTC 5 and 6 albeit heavily damaged were still standing where WTC 7 totally collapsed and WTC 5 and 6 stood between WTC 1 and 2 and WTC 7.
It may be the fact that WTC 7 was a taller building. But the Post office and Verizon buildings adjacent to WTC 7 with WTC 5 and 6 did not collapse.
It may be the fact that WTC 7 was a taller building. But the Post office and Verizon buildings adjacent to WTC 7 with WTC 5 and 6 did not collapse.
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:34 am to GumboPot
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I've always had the question of why WTC 5 and 6 albeit heavily damaged were still standing where WTC 7 totally collapsed and WTC 5 and 6 stood between WTC 1 and 2 and WTC 7.
It may be the fact that WTC 7 was a taller building. But the Post office and Verizon buildings adjacent to WTC 7 with WTC 5 and 6 did not collapse.
Dont worry just wait for it. That'll be explained away with logic.
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This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 11:56 am
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