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re: Thomas Massie has a new poll up on X
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:20 am to I20goon
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:20 am to I20goon
Thank you. Those are good examples
I still think they fall short because they didn’t have the audacity to bribe the president himself. I’m not going to argue about it though.
Here’s the point though, and the actual argument. Massie’s poll was in your opinion not a valid question, but after this back and forth I believe I have proven that it very much is/was.
I still think they fall short because they didn’t have the audacity to bribe the president himself. I’m not going to argue about it though.
Here’s the point though, and the actual argument. Massie’s poll was in your opinion not a valid question, but after this back and forth I believe I have proven that it very much is/was.
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:20 am to OBReb6
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Israel and the Mossad orchestrated the Monica Lewinsky (Lewinsky is a Jew) scandal and thus the Clinton impeachment. Mossad recorded their interactions from a hotel in Washington, and Netanyahu used the recordings to blackmail Clinton to release Jonathan Pollard. Pollard was an American Jew who stole top secret information and gave it to Israel.
This sounds completely made up. Not everything is a conspiracy.
Jonathon Pollard was released in 2015.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:22 am to JoeHackett
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Jonathon Pollard was released in 2015.
No shite. Why do you think the public ended up finding out about the Lewinsky stuff? Clinton didn’t cave
And I already posted a source on this
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:24 am to OBReb6
quote:lol, actually we don't know that yet. China is not blackmailing Biden through having damning info on him because they were a party to Hunter's dealings? Not proven yet. Highly suspected however.
I still think they fall short because they didn’t have the audacity to bribe the president himself. I’m not going to argue about it though.
The only logical explanation of what's happening at our southern border is either...
A) a coup has occurred and we just don't know it
B) the Cartel has many politicians in their pocket, including in the executive.
quote:Never said that. His poll is indeed valid... his objective is probaly not what it appears to be. His objective is very likely to show most think Israel meddles the most and then he will then turn around and show that it is actually China (or maybe Mexico- I didn't think about that until the other poster stated it).
Here’s the point though, and the actual argument. Massie’s poll was in your opinion not a valid question, but after this back and forth I believe I have proven that it very much is/was.
So when the poll is done and it says Israel meddles the most he'll post something like "China spent XXXXX on propaganda in the US and that's YY times what Israel spent".
The poll isn't disingenuous it's just a trap question that he knows the real answer to and will use it to make the point he really wants to make. He's using anti-Israeli sentiment in the public to "redirect the narrative".
Which, going by some posts here, when he does that it would be considered meddling in our election by Massie.
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 11:31 am
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:25 am to OBReb6
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No shite. Why do you think the public ended up finding out about the Lewinsky stuff? Clinton didn’t cave
Because of Linda Tripp recording her conversations with Monica. Because Ken Starr was already investigating Clinton.
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And I already posted a source on this
You posted a link, sneakily implying that the Times of Israel was making a claim, when in fact it's just an allegation by an author of a book. Anyone can make wild accusations.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:29 am to JoeHackett
Unfortunately that is the nature of foreign interference allegations. You are going to have to get it from books and first hand accounts.
No government is going to acknowledge it, and our press is a mouthpiece of the state. In fact, our government has proven they will actually flat out make up false stories about foreign meddling, see the past few years
No government is going to acknowledge it, and our press is a mouthpiece of the state. In fact, our government has proven they will actually flat out make up false stories about foreign meddling, see the past few years
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:43 am to OBReb6
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Unfortunately that is the nature of foreign interference allegations. You are going to have to get it from books and first hand accounts.
No government is going to acknowledge it, and our press is a mouthpiece of the state. In fact, our government has proven they will actually flat out make up false stories about foreign meddling, see the past few years
Right but I don't trust people who make claims unless they can back those claims up with hard evidence. Even if those claims are something I'd like to believe. It's too easy to lie and then claim that the evidence has been covered up (see Russiagate).
Bill Clinton got caught because he was reckless while under Federal investigation. He bombed Sudan to distract from his investigation. He certainly seems like he would have released anyone from prison in order to keep Israel from making his scandal known publicly.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:16 pm to Seldom Seen
Thomas Massie is a national treasure
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:18 pm to JellyRoll
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It's interesting you think a president touching that wall is considered interference vs what China does.
It’s sad you think they even have a choice in the matter.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:22 pm to SlowFlowPro
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There was a time that would create rally posts on here and lots of "shut it down" memes posted by the people who now support Israel almost religiously
i am totally "pro-israel," anti-russia, and anti-china and i'm fine admitting the jews interfere with our electoral process and national decision making more than the others listed.
but also...
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:25 pm to L1C4
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But how much does the US meddle in other countries affairs?
"We don't know how to mind our own business, 'cause the whole world has to look like us."
Ask yourself how much of our foreign policy is influenced by AIPAC.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The frick? Meddling doesn't require illegality
That damn trump is meddling with democracy. We have to make sure no one can vote for him.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:28 pm to Bunk Moreland
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What? They are sucking Bibi cock these days and can't get enough dead Gazans.
It's possible to do both.
Kind of like thinking Trump sucks but is far better than Biden.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:32 pm to BuckyCheese
If he just said Jews in general I’d pick that. But, since the choices are countries, I’d say
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