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Thomas Jefferson's hometown of Charlottesville, VA will no longer mark his birthday

Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:11 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:11 pm
[Apologies if this has been discussed (in which case, toss this thread an anchor); I’ve searched the site for “Jefferson” and “Charlottesville” And didn’t see anything.]
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Am I the only one who finds this incredibly sad?
FOUR people made this decision.
Jefferson owned slaves; and that’s a rotten thing.
But I’m betting that he wouldn’t do so today.

Where does it stop?

WSJ: Charlottesville’s Complicated Relationship With Thomas Jefferson

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The Virginia city, enveloped in the legacy of the Founding Father, will no longer mark his birthday on April 13 as an official holiday. It will instead celebrate Freedom and Liberation Day on March 3, commemorating when thousands of slaves were emancipated in 1865 after Union forces arrived in the city near the end of the Civil War.

We’re making sure the historical perspective is told from the black viewpoint, and being unwavering about our viewpoint of that,” Mayor Nikuyah Walker, who is Charlottesville’s first African-American female mayor, said in an interview this week.

The city council agreed to stop recognizing the holiday in a 4-1 vote Monday, just days before the Fourth of July—the national holiday celebrating the Declaration of Independence, penned largely by Jefferson.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57871 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:15 pm to
quote:

The Virginia city, enveloped in the legacy of the Founding Father, will no longer mark his birthday on April 13 as an official holiday. It will instead celebrate Freedom and Liberation Day on March 3, commemorating when thousands of slaves were emancipated in 1865 after Union forces arrived in the city near the end of the Civil War.


Ridiculous
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:15 pm to
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Where does it stop?
Have you read 1984?

The answer is it doesn’t stop. The people doing these things don’t actually have a cause or something they stand for. Everything they do is out of a sense fullfilling their own vanity.
This post was edited on 7/7/19 at 8:17 pm
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19167 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:19 pm to
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Everything they do is out of a sense fullfilling their own vanity.


Yes

They’re all looking for their Rosa Parks moment, except, all the great battles have been fought, and won. And so they’re left to invent these increasingly ludicrous causes that they can champion.

They fact that a bunch of bourgeois white people from up north are all looking to come down south and save the black man is hilarious.

It’s also telling.

These people are beyond patronizing. And have no perception of the damage they’re doing to the black community.

But never mind that, the crusade must go on.

I don’t particularly understand why they feel obligated to move to a place where they hate the people, and the culture. I’m assuming they’re fulfilling Cotton Mathers mandate.

They don’t understand why they believe what they believe, which isn’t unusual per se. But I think they would be somewhat surprised to find that they are in fact, highly religious people, worshiping Puritan values (and a secular Puritan god).

Historians have argued, and I think it’s true, that the war between the states was simply a continuation of the English civil war. Another round of Cavaliers vs Round Heads.

So maybe this is us just losing the last battle to an enemy we’ve been fighting for almost 400 years.

I guess we had a good run?
This post was edited on 7/7/19 at 8:45 pm
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46010 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:21 pm to
What happens to MLK’s legacy after his FBI tapes are released to the general public. I’ve heard the tapes have some really disturbing content including a rape where MLK is heard in the background delivering a real bang up sermon.
Posted by TheBob
Metairie
Member since Jun 2005
16935 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:25 pm to
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The answer is it doesn’t stop


Exactly. It will never stop.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35468 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:25 pm to
What happened about living in harmony?

It seems everything is about revenge these days.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57198 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:26 pm to
Some thought it would stop with the removal of Confederate flags. That was just the first salvo.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19167 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:40 pm to
Well, culture is zero sum, and it’s us vs them.

Either they stamp us out, or they don’t.

And if we’re going to survive, we need to get very serious, very quickly.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19167 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

What happened about living in harmony?


Puritan harmony is like Han Chinese harmony.

Embrace the mono culture!

Because it’s the only option they’ll give you.
Posted by Sponge
Member since Nov 2018
3751 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:44 pm to
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Everything they do is out of a sense fullfilling their own vanity.

Pretty much

This whole SJW/progressive movement we've seen take off the past couple years is pretty much just narcissism run amok.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19167 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:46 pm to
We need some bone shattering hardship to rectify the situation.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32224 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:47 pm to
We are going in the wrong direction. I don't know if it can be reversed. Breaks my heart and pisses me off!
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:48 pm to
Discredit Jefferson, discredit the Constiturion. Discredit the Constitution, then it’s time to abolish it or revamp it. I think that’s one of the main things they’re after.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19167 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:49 pm to
As friend once said, things went to hell when we abandoned dueling.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57198 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:53 pm to
What's next for Charlottesville? Burning down Monticello? The University of Virginia?
Posted by Jack Prenderville
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2019
183 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 8:56 pm to
Eventually white people are going to have to stand up and defend themselves otherwise this country will be overrun by Muslims and Illegal Immigrants. The clock is ticking.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35468 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 9:05 pm to
THE SECOND COMING

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

- William Butler Yeats
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19167 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 9:08 pm to
That’s an interesting choice.

Yeats was an Irish nationalist.

But he was Anglo-Irish, Anglican, and not Catholic.

After independence, the Catholics stamped out his people.
This post was edited on 7/7/19 at 9:09 pm
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 7/7/19 at 9:09 pm to
"After the confederate statues, they'll go after the Founding Fathers next."

"OMG that's CRAZY they'll never do something THAT extreme."
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