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This talk of a 2 part plan

Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted by alatxtgr
The Nation of Texas
Member since Sep 2006
2282 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:39 pm
I will guarantee that after conceding to part 1, part 2 will never be agreed upon. It will thereby afford the DACA/Deamers amnesty with a path to citizenship. The wall will be a piecemeal travesty and all of the afore mentioned will be able to get all of there immediate family into the country. This has been proven time and time again....

eta: Enforce current laws on the books, we don't need any other ones as far as immigration is concerned.....
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 1:00 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67004 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:42 pm to
Yep, that’s exactly what happened under Reagan. He agreed to partially roll back tax cuts and allow for amnesty in exchange for spending cuts and border security that never came about. We’ve seen this before.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
18971 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:44 pm to
See Ronald Reagan and the results of his amnesty deal. Illegals got amnesty, the Dems got California ( a traditional Repub stronghold) forever and we got dicked on border security.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:45 pm to
I don't even understand how DACA/Dreamers are being used as a bargaining chip. The hand doesn't have any leverage at all.

Let the government shut down and then do nothing but quote Dems from 2013 about how everyone is going to die if the govt shuts down.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
18971 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:51 pm to
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I don't even understand how DACA/Dreamers are being used as a bargaining chip. The hand doesn't have any leverage at all.


The only leverage they provide is an emotional one. Dems know Republicans don’t want images of crying children being deported all over the news. At the same time, Republicans know that amnesty and voting rights for illegals flips atleast 5 states permanently to the Dems. That happens, it’s ballgame. The Dems will have cemented power in perpetuity.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34650 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:54 pm to
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At the same time, Republicans know that amnesty and voting rights for illegals flips atleast 5 states permanently to the Dems. That happens, it’s ballgame. The Dems will have cemented power in perpetuity.
America is so screwed if that happens. This may be our final stand as a nation
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:04 pm to
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The only leverage they provide is an emotional one. Dems know Republicans don’t want images of crying children being deported all over the news. At the same time, Republicans know that amnesty and voting rights for illegals flips atleast 5 states permanently to the Dems. That happens, it’s ballgame. The Dems will have cemented power in perpetuity.


It's insanity. The Republicans have the stone cold nuts on DACA and they act like they have dueces. They don't have to give amnesty to anyone.

Start deporting them until the Dims accept a budget. It's that simple.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139779 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 1:38 pm to
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I will guarantee that after conceding to part 1, part 2 will never be agreed upon. It will thereby afford the DACA/Deamers amnesty with a path to citizenship.


There is little doubt the lying Dems will do this and I think most of the GOP will fall for it.
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