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re: This is an example of the people staffed in the Trump and Pence administration
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:54 pm to AU86
Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:54 pm to AU86
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That is why they took Flynn out. He was that man for Trump. When they took him out they hamstrung Trump and that was their intent.
This CANNOT be overstated. What they did to Gen. Flynn gets my blood boiling every time I think of it.
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 9:57 pm to burger bearcat
The staggering thing to me is that these folks don't even pretend like they work for the President, they act like the President works for them. All of those bureaucracies are part of the Executive and they are supposed to implement the President's policy unless he is breaking the law. Instead they just openly defied him.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:14 pm to Sentrius
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Jeff Sessions was telling Trump that he needed to fire Comey on day one as he could not be trusted after the Hillary email debacle and he was going to be a liability.
What a weird choice for an example. Sessions’ ham-handed recusal was the biggest mistake of Trump’s first two years. And it wasn’t done by Trump.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:16 pm to Sentrius
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He also served 5 1/2 years as a US Congressman and had committee spots on the Judiciary, foreign affairs and importantly, government oversight and reform committees. Those are key committees when we're talking about institutional knowledge.
Fair enough. I was unaware of this. I’d say Trump’s real estate experience is at least equal to DeSantis’ legal experience.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:21 pm to lsuguy84
I think he'd bend over for just about anybody.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:27 pm to Sentrius
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Just shows you why having institutional knowledge is so important. Institutional knowledge of who's who in politics, the bureaucracy, the military and what the nuts and bolts of government machinery is and how to use it effectively.
Trumps biggest failing was not firing everyone and starting with a clean slate, tenure be damned.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:27 pm to the808bass
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What a weird choice for an example.
It's an example of Trump not following sound advice from one of the rare few established politicians in DC that supported him and was the first US Senator to endorse him.
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Sessions’ ham-handed recusal was the biggest mistake of Trump’s first two years. And it wasn’t done by Trump.
Sessions recusal would not have mattered at all if Trump had not done this boneheaded stunt that his staff was pleading and begging him not to do....
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:28 pm to Jyrdis
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Trumps biggest failing was not firing everyone and starting with a clean slate, tenure be damned.
Indeed.
It's a lesson for future GOP Presidents to follow.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:29 pm to Sentrius
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Sessions recusal would not have mattered at all if Trump had not done this boneheaded stunt that his staff was pleading and begging him not to do....
It’s like you slept through four years and are now reciting pieces of the Democratic narrative.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:31 pm to blueboy
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Just out of curiosity, what did DeSantis do to make the board mad?
This only proves you have no clue what the dust up is about. I guarantee everyone likes Desantis.
I will let you work for the rest.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:33 pm to Sentrius
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It's an example of Trump not following sound advice from one of the rare few established politicians in DC that supported him and was the first US Senator to endorse him.
But you’re acting like Sessions was some oracle. He wasn’t. And his blunder set the stage for the whole Russia investigation.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:35 pm to blueboy
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Just out of curiosity, what did DeSantis do to make the board mad?
I’m in favor of DeSantis being the candidate in 2024. I just don’t have to run down Trump to arrive at that conclusion. I knew from the title of the thread that Sentrius would be in this thread running down Trump and telling us how DeSantis would avoid all of Trump’s failures and lead us to the Promised Land.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:38 pm to the808bass
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It’s like you slept through four years and are now reciting pieces of the Democratic narrative.
Dude, he literally blurted out Russia as his reason for firing Comey and just left it at that point blank, completely contradicting his staff who was citing Rosenstein's letter of recommendation for firing Comey.
After that disaster of an interview, Trump never sat down for another interview with anyone besides Fox for a very long time.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:38 pm to ChineseBandit58
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I support everything you said there - don't understand the snide remarks and the downvotes.
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ChineseBandit58
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:39 pm to the808bass
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I’m in favor of DeSantis being the candidate in 2024. I just don’t have to run down Trump to arrive at that conclusion. I knew from the title of the thread that Sentrius would be in this thread running down Trump and telling us how DeSantis would avoid all of Trump’s failures and lead us to the Promised Land.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:42 pm to AU86
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That is why they took Flynn out. He was that man for Trump. When they took him out they hamstrung Trump and that was their intent.
Remember, Pence took out Flynn. Pence also counted electors in states that clearly needed to have the electors sent beck to the state legislatures.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:43 pm to obdobd918
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clearly needed to have the electors sent beck to the state legislatures.
Can’t wait for Kamala to do this in 2024
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:45 pm to Sentrius
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"I was going to fire Comey, knowing there was no good time to do it," Trump told Holt. "And in fact when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story."
I’m not sure how this was a major error. I know it made the Beltway folks get the vapors. Comey made up the Russia story, briefed the President on the false story and then leaked the briefing to the media. That’s the best reason to fire him. You’re going to say he should’ve been smarter. And I’m going to counter it didn’t matter what he did. We would’ve ended up in the same place.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:46 pm to boosiebadazz
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Can’t wait for Kamala to do this in 2024
I would love this, tbh. It will get us where we need to be faster.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 10:55 pm to the808bass
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I’m not sure how this was a major error.
For a chickenshit like Rosenstein, it was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Trump blurting out Russia gave Rosenstein the justification to appoint Mueller. It was one of those times where Trump really, really needed to stay disciplined on messaging.
In fact, after the comey debacle, Trump only fired officials through a simple phone call and simple tweets and more often than not had no comment about it to the media afterwards and left it to the Press secretary to handle those. Trump learned from that.
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Comey made up the Russia story, briefed the President on the false story and then leaked the briefing to the media. That’s the best reason to fire him.
I agree. Comey got what he deserved. He's a shite weasel that played both sides and that's about us untrustworthy as it gets.
But the clown show way Trump fired Comey is a great example of why those in the private sector and other politicians prefer to do their firing as quiet, terse, disciplined and stay as much on message as possible.
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You’re going to say he should’ve been smarter. And I’m going to counter it didn’t matter what he did.
We'll agree to disagree then.
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