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This is an example of the people staffed in the Trump and Pence administration
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:05 pm
The Bulwark
Trump was fought at every corner in his administration
Trump was fought at every corner in his administration
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Olivia Troye is a former career intelligence professional who served as Vice President Mike Pence’s Homeland Security and Counterterrorism Advisor, as well as his lead staffer on the White House Coronavirus Task Force. She is now director of the Republican Accountability Project.
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Although I was unaware of it at the time, it appears the Trump administration attempted to do through the State Department what the intelligence community would not—hence the recently ended independent investigation by the State Department into the origins of the virus. Pompeo’s investigation reportedly began in “late 2020, months after Pompeo and President Donald Trump first claimed that the virus could have originated from the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 8:06 pm
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Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:13 pm to burger bearcat
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Trump was fought at every corner in his administration
Just shows you why having institutional knowledge is so important. Institutional knowledge of who's who in politics, the bureaucracy, the military and what the nuts and bolts of government machinery is and how to use it effectively.
Trump didn't have that and it really showed and still shows today.
It's a good example as to why I support DeSantis 2024 as the biggest reason why he's been so successful in Florida as Governor is that he has that institutional knowledge.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:16 pm to Sentrius
Good grief you are such a clown 
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:19 pm to Sentrius
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Trump didn't have that and it really showed and still shows today
I'd like to think Trump has acquired some knowledge in that field.
Agreed about DeSantis, also Trump is also going to be 78-79 im the 2024 cycle which may or not be an issue yet. But we see how quickly the aging caught up to the current vegetable.
This post was edited on 6/2/21 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:21 pm to Sentrius
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Just shows you why having institutional knowledge is so important. Institutional knowledge of who's who in politics, the bureaucracy, the military and what the nuts and bolts of government machinery is and how to use it effectively.
Trump didn't have that and it really showed and still shows today.
That is why they took Flynn out. He was that man for Trump. When they took him out they hamstrung Trump and that was their intent.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:21 pm to Sentrius
Institutional knowledge.
Brought to you by the Swamp.
Brought to you by the Swamp.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:22 pm to Sentrius
Jesus. You need to make an auto post.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:25 pm to burger bearcat
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I'd like to think Trump has acquired some knowledge in that field.
He may have and that's a fair point.
But I also argue by the time he did, it was too late and a lot of the problem actors had already burrowed theirselves in and it was difficult to get them out and the damage was already done.
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also Trump is also going to be 78-79 im the 2024 cycle which may or not be an issue yet. But we see how quickly the aging caught up to the current vegetable.
Right.
We just had two straight elections where the democrat and GOP candidates were in their 70s and that's a trend that needs to stop before we see candidates in their mid 80s running.
The White House has no business being an old folks retirement home.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:25 pm to Sentrius
You realize Rubio still isn’t going to frick you, right?
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:25 pm to Sentrius
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Just shows you why having institutional knowledge is so important. Institutional knowledge of who's who in politics, the bureaucracy, the military and what the nuts and bolts of government machinery is and how to use it effectively.
Trump didn't have that and it really showed and still shows today.
It's a good example as to why I support DeSantis 2024 as the biggest reason why he's been so successful in Florida as Governor is that he has that institutional knowledge.
I support everything you said there - don't understand the snide remarks and the downvotes.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:26 pm to Sentrius
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It's a good example as to why I support DeSantis 2024 as the biggest reason why he's been so successful in Florida as Governor is that he has that institutional knowledge.
I think people underestimate one of the most important things about Trump.
He was basically untouchable. You have to have stupid money and cya your whole life for that to truly work.
I would say we are not lucky enough to have people untouchable like that who are strictly in America’s corner first, still empathize with the world, and willing to put up with the swamp. It is disappointing how many people don’t understand Trump will easily be the best President for the rest of this board’s lifetime.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:27 pm to the808bass
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You need to make an auto post.
Its unreal
And the dude is like 0 for 20 on turds he supports
Will jinx the frick out of Ron
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:27 pm to Sentrius
Sentrius, get bent man, I mean it.
Yes Trump was an outsider and struck a deal with the devil with Pence as VP and the cabinet that came along with him.
In your “glass half empty” analysis you deem this Trumps fault.
The reality is the depth of the swamp was to deep for any outsider to penetrate in four years.
And if you think your boy Desantis is not subject to these same forces, solely because he isn’t Trump, you are a fool.
Turn in your fricking coat.
Yes Trump was an outsider and struck a deal with the devil with Pence as VP and the cabinet that came along with him.
In your “glass half empty” analysis you deem this Trumps fault.
The reality is the depth of the swamp was to deep for any outsider to penetrate in four years.
And if you think your boy Desantis is not subject to these same forces, solely because he isn’t Trump, you are a fool.
Turn in your fricking coat.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:29 pm to Sentrius
Trump clearly did not know how deep the Marxist bureaucratic roots went into the bedrock of government. He naïvely assumed that simply because he was president that everyone would fall in line. He certainly didn’t expect them to actively work against his agenda. But they did.
I am certain that he heeded the advice of those around him who persuaded him not to prosecute Hillary. Thinking that showing mercy would be received as a peace offering, and then he could get on with the business of running the country. Not knowing that they would never allow that.
I am certain that he heeded the advice of those around him who persuaded him not to prosecute Hillary. Thinking that showing mercy would be received as a peace offering, and then he could get on with the business of running the country. Not knowing that they would never allow that.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:30 pm to lsuguy84
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You realize Rubio still isn’t going to frick you, right?
Anyone that Donald Trump beat in 2016 is dead on arrival for the 2024 Presidential contest. You just can't come back from that.
But have fun watching Rubio win by comfortable margins next year and keeping a senate seat safe R with little to no trouble at all.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:31 pm to ChineseBandit58
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don't understand the snide remarks and the downvotes.
Because they know I'm right and would rather just be all passive aggressive about it in frustration.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:32 pm to Sentrius
lol
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:32 pm to Sentrius
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Because they know I'm right
You have never ever ever been right about anything
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:37 pm to AndyCBR
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In your “glass half empty” analysis you deem this Trumps fault.
Trump is the one that campaigned for the job and wanted to be President. The buck stops with him. He had a responsibility to maintain an effective administration that would support him. If he didn't get that done, that's on him.
Look at Fauci. He had a responsibility to make sure he was giving the american, public, state governments and the medical community good advice that was in good faith and look how that turned out.
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And if you think your boy Desantis is not subject to these same forces, solely because he isn’t Trump, you are a fool.
I never said that.
I'm well aware that DeSantis fighting the same forces. He literally had to defeat the establishment favorite for the GOP nomination for Governor. And that was the best endorsement Trump has ever made.
In fact, I remember them pre-blaming DeSantis for Rick Scott's pending loss to Bill Nelson in 2018.
You're just projecting here.
Posted on 6/2/21 at 8:37 pm to SDVTiger
quote:He's right. Trump's worst quality was that he didn't have a legion of cronies (or at least people he knew everything about) to appoint to various positions. He used appointments as a favor/carrot to appease GOPe players. One after another. they stabbed him in teh back.
Good grief you are such a clown
Jimmy Carter had the same problem. His appointments were mostly junk. It's the down side of being a political outsider.
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