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re: This country deserves every bad thing it has coming
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:10 pm to cwill
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:10 pm to cwill
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You’re a terrible person for wishing ill on your fellow countrymen because of poor leadership and governance by the narrow elite.
In a country where representative government is the norm, people get the government they deserve. And what percentage of people in this country are fat, self-entitled morons whose idea of intellectual stimulation is trashy reality tv? The fact is, many Americans are no different than petulant children. We have to be reminded every 10 minutes how wonderful we are, even though everyone else in the world thinks we're spoiled and obnoxious bastards. Our government perfectly represents a large segment of the population. They want more government services but lower taxes. They bitch about the debt but don't you dare touch their disability check or Social Security or Medicare. And when things go south, those people who were too stupid and too lazy to educate themselves about the issues of the day and elect decent people to office will deserve whatever fate awaits them.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:57 pm to SCLibertarian
You are still pretending that Americans voted these people in. What should be quite apparent to anyone with any common sense, at this point, is that we haven't had fair elections for a long time. This past election was just a more brazen effort to squash our collective voices.
If all you do is monitor the internet to decide what kind of people our country is made of, then you will easily come to the conclusion that it is made of nothing but spoiled brats. But guess what? While you and so many others love to talk about how the rest of the world is so level headed, and how everyone else sees us as a bunch of pricks, the truth is that all "civilized" countries behave the same on the internet. It has been proven, time and again, that all of the internet noise only makes up about two percent of the actual population. Most working class citizens are conservative minded, because working tends to make you see reality more than sitting around waiting for a handout.
Lot's of countries have the same people sitting around, waiting for the same handouts, and their governments are just as corrupt as ours. Those countries also have a large portion of their population who are trying to fight back and are struggling to find leaders who will fight for them.
This self-loathing BS is tiresome. If you think the whole country is weak, because you have zero perspective of anything that is going on around you, and only understand what you see on tv and the internet, then go live in one of these countries that you believe are so much better than us. You aren't helping anyone by wishing for our collective demise.
If all you do is monitor the internet to decide what kind of people our country is made of, then you will easily come to the conclusion that it is made of nothing but spoiled brats. But guess what? While you and so many others love to talk about how the rest of the world is so level headed, and how everyone else sees us as a bunch of pricks, the truth is that all "civilized" countries behave the same on the internet. It has been proven, time and again, that all of the internet noise only makes up about two percent of the actual population. Most working class citizens are conservative minded, because working tends to make you see reality more than sitting around waiting for a handout.
Lot's of countries have the same people sitting around, waiting for the same handouts, and their governments are just as corrupt as ours. Those countries also have a large portion of their population who are trying to fight back and are struggling to find leaders who will fight for them.
This self-loathing BS is tiresome. If you think the whole country is weak, because you have zero perspective of anything that is going on around you, and only understand what you see on tv and the internet, then go live in one of these countries that you believe are so much better than us. You aren't helping anyone by wishing for our collective demise.
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 3/25/21 at 11:19 pm to Metaloctopus
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What should be quite apparent to anyone with any common sense, at this point, is that we haven't had fair elections for a long time. This past election was just a more brazen effort to squash our collective voices.
In 1971, this country ended the Bretton Woods monetary system, creating a wholly fiat currency. It did so without a peep from the electorate.
In 1988, this country elected George H.W. Bush as President, who ushered us into a war with Saddam Hussein, a man whose army our CIA armed, funded and trained less than a decade earlier. He lost to a guy who was somehow an even bigger scumbag than he was.
In 1992, this country elected Bill Clinton, whose crimes are too long to name. His administration killed as many as 500k Iraqi children with sanctions and he killed some Sudanese pharmaceutical employees to distract from his own impeachment scandal. But the American people loved this guy, even though he was a sleaze.
In 2000, this country elected the worst President of my lifetime in George W. Bush. He ushered in the War on Terror, the Patriot Act, the Iraq War, indefinite detentions and all the excesses that came with post 9/11 America. This war criminal was somehow reelected.
In 2008, the American electorate voted for Barack Obama, who not only continued Bush's wars, he escalated conflicts in Libya, Syria and Ukraine and used drones strikes as his personal civilian-killing machines. In both 2008 and 2012, his opponents were even more bloodthirsty and eager for war. So what does that tell you about the American public?
In 2018, white suburbanites across the country voted in midterm elections for a party that openly despises white people, flyover country, capitalism, the 1st Amendment, the 2nd Amendment, the 5th Amendment, the 6th Amendment and the 10th Amendment. This act of virtue signaling resulted in 2 sham impeachments of Donald Trump.
In 2020, the American people bought the Covid fearmongering hook, line and sinker. And because of that, they allowed their state governments to essentially rewrite laws allowing for ballot harvesting on a scale never seen before. And the Republican Party establishment didn't do shite about it because they're in on it as well. And who do you think voted in all those RINO's?
I'm sorry, but when you look at who to blame for the sorry state of affairs in America, blame the voting public.
Posted on 3/25/21 at 11:24 pm to lpb tiger
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Evidence say's you're wrong. Like 63 court decision's say you are wrong
This might carry more weight if you knew how to use a frickING APOSTROPHE. Is grammar just not taught at all? Do you vote?
Posted on 3/25/21 at 11:41 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Proudly voted Libertarian since 1992. I will continue to do my part.
Libertarians have contributed to the degeneracy of this country and the breakdown of our communities and the nuclear family in the name of "liberty".
We need more order and less liberty.

Posted on 3/26/21 at 12:00 am to Flats
The truth is the the country is too large for a representative government to effectively function. Look at the top 20 countries by population and count the number of dictatorships:
China - dictator
India - government trending to dictatorship
United States - clusterfrick
Indonesia - near dictator
Pakistan - constant military coups from 1950-2000
Brazil - government trending to dictatorship
Nigeria - dictatorship lite
Bangladesh - super authoritarian
Russia - dictator
Mexico - run by cartels
Japan - historical monarchy and first country on the lost to have something resembling a functioning representative government
Ethiopia - one party state
Phillipines - dictator
Egypt - controlled by military
Vietnam - communist Chinese puppet
Congo - dictatorship
Iran - one party state
Turkey - dictatorship
Germany - Representative democracy (functioning)
France - Representative democracy (clusterfrick)
Of the top 20, you have 3 maybe 4 that aren't full-blown authoritarian hellscapes.
Japan has 1/3 of our population.
Germany has 1/4.
France has 1/6.
China - dictator
India - government trending to dictatorship
United States - clusterfrick
Indonesia - near dictator
Pakistan - constant military coups from 1950-2000
Brazil - government trending to dictatorship
Nigeria - dictatorship lite
Bangladesh - super authoritarian
Russia - dictator
Mexico - run by cartels
Japan - historical monarchy and first country on the lost to have something resembling a functioning representative government
Ethiopia - one party state
Phillipines - dictator
Egypt - controlled by military
Vietnam - communist Chinese puppet
Congo - dictatorship
Iran - one party state
Turkey - dictatorship
Germany - Representative democracy (functioning)
France - Representative democracy (clusterfrick)
Of the top 20, you have 3 maybe 4 that aren't full-blown authoritarian hellscapes.
Japan has 1/3 of our population.
Germany has 1/4.
France has 1/6.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 12:02 am to RiverCityTider
It has crossed my mind that maybe what stimulated the Deep State to cheat Trump out of the election was their fear that he was going to make a serious run in his second term to eliminate the FED. His deep admiration of Andrew Jackson scared the hell out of them.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 12:07 am
Posted on 3/26/21 at 12:06 am to SCLibertarian
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For electing a walking corpse like Biden.
Remember, he was not elected.
He said, "We have the most intensive and extensive voter fraud campaign in American history."
Why this was not played in every courtroom when they submitted their election irregularities cases is beyond me. You have the campaign admitting they cheated on video.
This proves pre-meditated and intent.
How do they refute this? Do they say, "Oh, it's Joe. He has dementia. He does not know what he is saying?"
Posted on 3/26/21 at 12:12 am to Muthsera
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The truth is the the country is too large for a representative government to effectively function. Look at the top 20 countries by population and count the number of dictatorships:
China - dictator
India - government trending to dictatorship
United States - clusterfrick
Indonesia - near dictator
Pakistan - constant military coups from 1950-2000
Brazil - government trending to dictatorship
Nigeria - dictatorship lite
Bangladesh - super authoritarian
Russia - dictator
Mexico - run by cartels
Japan - historical monarchy and first country on the lost to have something resembling a functioning representative government
Ethiopia - one party state
Phillipines - dictator
Egypt - controlled by military
Vietnam - communist Chinese puppet
Congo - dictatorship
Iran - one party state
Turkey - dictatorship
Germany - Representative democracy (functioning)
France - Representative democracy (clusterfrick)
Monarchists have often said that republics are a crude form of government, inherently unstable, more prone to corruption and not built to last for the long haul.
I'm believing more and more they may be correct and wonder what America would be like today if George Washington was crowned as King George I after the revolutionary war and we have a representative and parliamentary government that's a cross between our current system and what the UK uses today.
It also reminds me of their point as to why it's important to separate the head of state role away from the head of government. In America, our head of state is despised by half of the country no matter who's in office. The not My President nonsense with Trump is a great example of that.
The head of state role in America is utterly broken. I can't think of a single American that's as beloved and respected as Queen Elizabeth is in the UK.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 2:46 am to SCLibertarian
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In 1971, this country ended the Bretton Woods monetary system, creating a wholly fiat currency. It did so without a peep from the electorate.
Because the electorate was given no say in the matter.
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In 1988, this country elected George H.W. Bush as President, who ushered us into a war with Saddam Hussein, a man whose army our CIA armed, funded and trained less than a decade earlier. He lost to a guy who was somehow an even bigger scumbag than he was.
I'm not even going to defend H.W. Bush. I didn't like him anymore than you did. But do you think America should have voted for Michael Dukakis? We have historically been given the most awful choices. Our problem isn't the electorate; it's our corrupt political system, which churns out only candidates who will fight to keep the establishment in power, instead of fighting for us. Trump and Reagan were exceptions, and that is exactly why they are/were so hated in Washington.
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In 1992, this country elected Bill Clinton, whose crimes are too long to name. His administration killed as many as 500k Iraqi children with sanctions and he killed some Sudanese pharmaceutical employees to distract from his own impeachment scandal. But the American people loved this guy, even though he was a sleaze.
Once again, can anyone actually be certain of the legitimacy of that election? Let's just assume that he was totally legally voted in. Look who the choices were. H.W. made his promises that got him elected, and he didn't keep any of them. What that meant was that many people didn't show up to vote against Clinton, and so he won. If, again, we assume it was legitimate. I'm waiting for you to show me which candidate you thought this country was supposed to vote for, and which one of them wasn't going to be awful.
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In 2000, this country elected the worst President of my lifetime in George W. Bush. He ushered in the War on Terror, the Patriot Act, the Iraq War, indefinite detentions and all the excesses that came with post 9/11 America. This war criminal was somehow reelected.
First of all, that first sentence blows my mind. Worse than Obama? And if you want to talk about war criminals, look no further than Abraham Lincoln. The so-called "Civil War" had little to nothing to do with freeing slaves. And no, I'm not defending the right to own slaves, but revisionist historians have conveniently left out the part where Lincoln defended slave ownership his entire political career up until that point, and only when he was in jeopardy of losing the confederate states to secession for many reasons that had nothing to do with slaves, did he decide to use the slavery issue as political leverage to crush the confederacy and seize control. And the destruction of the south is truly what gave birth to widespread racism for roughly a century onward, as blacks unfortunately became a symbol of that destruction. But that's another discussion, for another day.
Bush's war on terror, in terms of retaliating on Usama Bin Laden, was not wrong. His handling of certain aspects of the war, and going down unnecessary rabbit holes, were clearly a snafu, and there is no question he was the most disappointing President of my lifetime. But should we have voted for Al Gore and John Kerry? I couldn't stand McCain, but voted for him as the lesser of two evils against Obama. Looking back, I wish I had voted for neither, but then, what would that really have solved?
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In 2008, the American electorate voted for Barack Obama, who not only continued Bush's wars, he escalated conflicts in Libya, Syria and Ukraine and used drones strikes as his personal civilian-killing machines. In both 2008 and 2012, his opponents were even more bloodthirsty and eager for war. So what does that tell you about the American public?
It was a horrible choice, if we can believe it was legitimate. But, as I stated previously, McCain wasn't going to be a good one, either. McCain most certainly would have continued the war, as well. These candidates were so awful that, again, as I mentioned with the Bush/Clinton election, a lot of republicans didn't show up.
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In 2018, white suburbanites across the country voted in midterm elections for a party that openly despises white people, flyover country, capitalism, the 1st Amendment, the 2nd Amendment, the 5th Amendment, the 6th Amendment and the 10th Amendment. This act of virtue signaling resulted in 2 sham impeachments of Donald Trump.
This, right here, is where you completely miss what's happening, in my opinion. After all of the years I mentioned where republicans, or libertarians, or whatever you want to call yourself, were so desperate to have a candidate that they could actually get behind and believe in, we had Trump. You saw the incredible enthusiasm for his campaign, and how he got elected against all "odds". You're really going to sit here and tell me that you believe just two years later, people wanted to go back and vote in everything they had just so eagerly voted against? Do you ACTUALLY believe those elections were legitimate, ESPECIALLY after what just happened in November?
Are you that hard up to try to not look like a "conspiracy theory" guy that you can't ask yourself a serious question about what you've seen happen? We showed up, we did our part, and we were defrauded out of an easy win.
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In 2020, the American people bought the Covid fearmongering hook, line and sinker. And because of that, they allowed their state governments to essentially rewrite laws allowing for ballot harvesting on a scale never seen before. And the Republican Party establishment didn't do shite about it because they're in on it as well. And who do you think voted in all those RINO's?
I get as annoyed as anyone when I see someone wearing a mask for no reason. But those people are either liberals, or people that simply don't pay attention to politics, and do what they're told. And shame on them for that. But these Governors didn't do what they did because of people buying in. They did it because they usurped their constitutional authority without regard for their citizens. We've urged our representatives through calls, emails, petitions and even protests, to challenge the legality of these actions and overturn them. We either get ignored, or our representatives are ignored, when they DO speak up.
That is because crooked politicians have overrun our system of due process. You ask who voted in "these RHINO's". People just like you and me. We don't vote for people, knowing they will be RHINO's. And if we know they are, and we still vote for them, it's because we have a pretty good reason to believe the opposition stands to do more, and potentially FAR more damage. We don't have the luxury, as many of you libertarians seem to believe we do, to just sit back and do nothing but complain about people when we don't like who's running for office. Some of us understand the difficult choices we HAVE to make, to limit damage.
The other option is to wage war against our government. It may yet come to that, though I have high hopes that God has other plans for this country to get out from under this corrupt political machine. I don't know what God's plans are, though. I'm guessing, however, that you wouldn't want to go to war if it came to that. So, I'm not exactly sure what it is you DO want this country to do.
I am not saying there aren't serious problems in the American populous. Clearly, there are. I also don't believe we are at all unique in that regard. But I don't believe a majority of Americans have willfully chosen to elect dictators, either.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 3:24 am
Posted on 3/26/21 at 2:47 am to SCLibertarian
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This country deserves every bad thing it has coming
Seriously....so burn down the country because your guy lost an election!.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 2:53 am to SCLibertarian
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For electing a walking corpse like Biden.
Insulting old people...that is really classy...
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For continuing to elect politicians who get rich by fleecing the taxpayers.
All politicians across the world do that. That includes DJT.
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For electing politicians who refuse to even consider cutting spending while driving our debt to $27 trillion.
Where would you cut spending. The military, social security or medicate...that is where bulk of the money is spent.
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For supporting a psychotic foreign policy that sends American kids to die to enrich the American political class and their Saudi and Israeli masters.
Bush and Cheney did that...and last time I checked they were GOP royalty and you worshipped them....then Obama and Biden ended the Iraq war...
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For supporting politicians that spy on us, collect our data without a warrant and then invoke national security when pressed for transparency.
Bush and Cheney started that. If you have nothing to hide why are you scared of spying.
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This country has been dead since we ended the Bretton Woods monetary system in the 1970's. And it's never coming back.
Really!. How old are you....a hundred...oh! or in your words a walking corpse
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 3:43 am
Posted on 3/26/21 at 3:03 am to Sentrius
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Monarchists have often said that republics are a crude form of government, inherently unstable, more prone to corruption and not built to last for the long haul.
I'm believing more and more they may be correct and wonder what America would be like today if George Washington was crowned as King George I after the revolutionary war and we have a representative and parliamentary government that's a cross between our current system and what the UK uses today.
True monarchies always lead to dictatorships. There is no representation. Monarchists hate republics, for no other reason than that the idea of republics are a threat to them. No system is perfect. No system will ever last forever. But a republic is your best chance. Our system hasn't lost it's way, however, because the republic has failed. It's that politicians have slowly eroded the functionality of the constitution by adding things to it, or simply making things up as they go, that have turned us, functionally, into a democracy. How often do you hear it said that we "have to fight for our democracy"? People have been brainwashed to believe that's what we are. And a democracy has far more holes in it than a republic, though it's still better than a monarchy.
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The head of state role in America is utterly broken. I can't think of a single American that's as beloved and respected as Queen Elizabeth is in the UK.
That's because the UK is not a true monarchy. The royal family are nothing more than ornamental figure heads, whose purpose is to uphold some weird sense of national (or I guess regional?) pride. They have no executive or legislative power. And so, there isn't much reason for controversy. Look at how their people feel about their Prime Minister (who actually has executive power) or their government (parliament), in general. Ever heard of Brexit? Yeah, I wouldn't use the UK as an example of what we should aspire to be to fix our division.
This post was edited on 3/26/21 at 3:27 am
Posted on 3/26/21 at 3:51 am to momentoftruth87
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Ppl who voted for him should be embarrassed
Quite a few probably are. A few more will be. A few more will never own up to it. A few more are ok with it. A few more were all for it. A few more were in on it. Many more may never even realize what went wrong.
Doesn't leave many in relevant opposition.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 6:55 am to SCLibertarian
but but but Donald Trump is a meany
Posted on 3/26/21 at 8:49 am to TotalPotato
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Where would you cut spending. The military, social security or medicare
All of them.
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Bush and Cheney did that...and last time I checked they were GOP royalty and you worshipped them
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then Obama and Biden ended the Iraq war...
And promptly started or escalated conflicts in Libya, Syria and Ukraine.
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Bush and Cheney started that. If you have nothing to hide why are you scared of spying.
And the Obama administration enhanced it. And as for your spying quote, you are a fool. When you believe you're being watched, you naturally are hesitant to dissent and instead conform. Mass surveillance is intended to stamp out dissent, not criminal activity.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 8:54 am to TotalPotato
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TotalPotato
Research is free.
Stop being a lazy Democrat and learn things on your own instead of spewing Liberal shite you are fed by the media.
By the way, only losers vote Democrat.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 8:54 am to SCLibertarian
How about a Denali size cheese to match that whine.
Posted on 3/26/21 at 8:55 am to TotalPotato
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Seriously....so burn down the country because your guy lost
So do what you did in 2016?
Posted on 3/26/21 at 8:58 am to OMLandshark
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She actually has a functional brain though.
Well, I guess more functional than a turnip... However, her wronged woman of color shite would be epic and terrifying at the same time...
Face it, the people of this country "elected" a turnip and woman that has sucked her way to the top... I'll take the turnip given the choice...
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