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re: "These crimes were not crimes before Mueller"

Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53741 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:36 am to
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One of the clearest pictures I have heard from anybody. All of the charges by Mueller (save the Manafort things from decades ago) would not be crimes had a SC not been set up. In other words, there would have been no traps of perjury.


Let's take this another direction. There wouldn't be an investigation into all things Trump if Hilldawg wins..., case closed! That's why the American people should know this Mueller SC is a fricking joke.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:57 am to
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However, in this instance, there is no specific underlying crime to justify this circus.
i simply have no idea what world you people are living on. you dont like things so you ignore them, and then you wonder why this is happening.

there has ALWAYS been, from day one, a mountain of highly suspicious activity between trump and the Russian government. direct links between them and his campaign.

Mueller, a lifelong conservative Republican appointed by W, was not brought in by a Republican DOJ under a Republican House and Republican Senate to witch hunt the Republican President, who approved and signed off on him as SC.

he was brought in to see if there was anything to that activity. maybe it was harmless and routine. if so, great. if not, why not. what happened?

stop making up and blaming everything bad on invisible monsters. choosing to ignore something doesnt make it go away, doesnt make it fake.

you were lied too. you were duped. it happens to the best of us. trump preyed on your fears and used you. he's a conman, and always has been. get over it.
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 10:58 am
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:59 am to
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there has ALWAYS been, from day one, a mountain of highly suspicious activity between trump and the Russian government.


No there hasn't.
Posted by Volatile
Tennessee
Member since Apr 2014
6139 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:00 am to
Pretty easy to avoid perjury. Just don’t lie.

Even easier when it’s a written statement and not a deposition where a party can consult with their attorney and go over the answers before submission.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84450 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:01 am to
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Pretty easy to avoid perjury. Just don’t lie.

Posted by clooneyisgod
Member since Feb 2006
7838 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:03 am to
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In other words, there would have been no traps of perjury.



I only lied because someone asked me the question...
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:04 am to
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there has ALWAYS been, from day one, a mountain of highly suspicious activity between trump and the Russian government. direct links between them and his campaign.



Not a crime.


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Mueller, a lifelong conservative Republican appointed by W, was not brought in by a Republican DOJ under a Republican House and Republican Senate to witch hunt the Republican President, who approved and signed off on him as SC.



Don't give a shite what party he "Identifies" with.


quote:

he was brought in to see if there was anything to that activity. maybe it was harmless and routine. if so, great. if not, why not. what happened?



That's not the way it works. That is stalinist. Show me the man, I will find a crime.


quote:

stop making up and blaming everything bad on invisible monsters. choosing to ignore something doesnt make it go away, doesnt make it fake.


What was made up. Your OWN WORDS proved the whole point.

quote:

you were lied too. you were duped. it happens to the best of us. trump preyed on your fears and used you. he's a conman, and always has been. get over it.


Based on what? perjury traps that have NOTHING to do with Collusion which is NOT a crime.

Posted by Numberwang
Bike City, USA
Member since Feb 2012
13163 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:05 am to
It really shows the utter evil behind the Democrat party, that Hillary and Podesta and Wasserman et al were basically caught red-handed committing multiple crimes, but there's been pretty much no investigation, yet we have this other "investigation" going on.

We are completely doomed as a nation.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:05 am to
quote:

Pretty easy to avoid perjury. Just don’t lie.

Even easier when it’s a written statement and not a deposition where a party can consult with their attorney and go over the answers before submission.


I 100% know that if you were on the other side of this, you are trappable.

Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:19 am to
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I 100% know that if you were on the other side of this, you are trappable.
not when it comes to working with the Russian government on a real estate project in Moscow while President
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84450 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:19 am to
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while President
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40946 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:20 am to
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MastrShake

One would think the party who claims to represent the poor and oppressed would be concerned about a prosecutorial authority with no limits and unlimited taxpayer funds. The Mueller probe is what a fascist state looks like.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:25 am to
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not when it comes to working with the Russian government on a real estate project in Moscow while President


That literally never happened. You know this though, don't you?
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:26 am to
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The Mueller probe is what a fascist state looks like.
holding the rich and powerful accountable for crimes theyre confessing to is supposed to bother me?
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:44 am to
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Let's put a SC on you and ask you where you were on Jan 8th 2014. If you get one thing wrong... You lied.


Judging from emails transmitted that day, i was at work from atleast 0815 to 1520 that day. Nothing of significance stands out to the best of my recollection.

Oh man, what a perjury trap.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84450 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:46 am to
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Judging from emails transmitted that day, i was at work from atleast 0815 to 1520 that day. Nothing of significance stands out to the best of my recollection.

Oh man, what a perjury trap.
:oversimplification
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
107049 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:47 am to
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What crime are they investigating?


The blatant and premeditated unequal sharing of ice cream.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:51 am to
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I 100% know that if you were on the other side of this, you are trappable.


This has nothing to do with

quote:

not when it comes to working with the Russian government on a real estate project in Moscow while President


I'm stating that right here. RIGHT NOW. I can trap you in a "lie". Fact.

Second....

This has nothing to do with real estate deals as president. He was a candidate. Still not illegal.

Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:00 pm to
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Judging from emails transmitted that day, i was at work from atleast 0815 to 1520 that day. Nothing of significance stands out to the best of my recollection. Oh man, what a perjury trap.


I would hate to watch anyone interact with a professional interrogater. There are so many dynamics in motion the only way to not get caught in a perjury trap is to never say a word.

They would attack you on the word "significance." Yes, it is opinion as to what is significant but as you tried to explain your opinion they would get you. It would not be a REAL crime but you or any of us would be unable to defend ourselves from the charge.

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55377 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:05 pm to
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9th life


Just a few questions?

Have you ever referred to athletes as effeminate?


Have you ever lied about making a post on this site?
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