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re: There is something "off" about this Fox/Dominion thing

Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:29 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:29 am to
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Insincerity on whose part?


The directors, producers, on air talent, etc.

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Dobbs was asking questions and interviewing guests

I never said they'd have lost the trial.

They've have lost the war going to trial, though.

And, as I said earlier, I'm just asking questions is NOT the way you want to frame a defense, given the overall context.

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I find it astonishing the left feels we should have less questioning of authority, not more.

Who is saying that?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467010 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:31 am to
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So you are implying the premise of this case was actually garbage.

Not garbage, but not a slam dunk.

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But it was an extortion racket designed to make FN submit

That describes all lawsuits, if you get big picture enough.

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because of other negative consequences not even related to the case it self,

Can't wait for discovery, Trumpkins, spring 2021

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Are we OK with using the courts and justice system for this purpose?

Which purpose, specifically?

How do you feel about the Hogan/Thiel Gawker lawsuit/victory?

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Why do we feel it's cool to use it as a weapon against enemies, and not to simply impartially find justice from harm done.

The parties settled, Fox could have gone to trial. I think they had a shot of winning at trial.
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:50 am to
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Only on this board could FOX admit they were wrong - and do it to the tune of 800 million mother fricking dollars - and still have you lemmings carrying their water trying to make excuses for their mistake


So your stupid arse thinks Dominion executives admitting to security flaws and vulnerabilities is "carrying [Fox's] water?" I don't give two shits about Fox News. I do care that we use the worst election software on the planet, apparently.

Dominion's Vice President of Engineering in 2016

Filings from the Fox News-Dominion case with multiple Dominion employees admitting that they have faced security vulnerabilities in the past
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:52 am to
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Can't wait for discovery, Trumpkins, spring 2021


You mean, the discovery that had the VICE PRESIDENT OF TECHNOLOGY at Dominion saying their software was garbage and easily hackable?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:03 am to
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Oh 100%. It's a simpleton argument for progs to make as well regarding "real media".



I mean, it could, but one would think the industry-wide response to this would be more stringent vetting guidelines, returning to the traditional media standard.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:24 am to
What SFP said...friend, you're the one in the bubble and you're resisting getting out with "questions".
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36027 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 11:03 am to
Lou Dobbs created most of this. He would editorialize as part of his question. Bartiromo would do much of the same but would stop short of being a cheerleader. Dobbs saw the line and raced right over it.

Second thing I learned when I got out of law school. Money is how corporations and big business say " ok I am somewhat responsible" First was the practice of Law has nothing to do with the law
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 11:49 am to
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I don't even recall Fox or any of its hosts discussing the Dominion or vote hacking stuff


proof!

too bad you didn't get to testify.

Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75370 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 11:51 am to
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Can't quite put my finger on it, but something is weird about this.

This is their attempt to get ahead of future developments, shut down continuing discussion about the matter, and preemptively generate rebuttals against Trump's continued coverage of the matter.

Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10328 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 11:53 am to
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proof!

too bad you didn't get to testify.


Forget about this court that you are hiding behind. I'm out here in the "court of public opinion". You have a compliant media to tell your side want to think, but since I'm not Mika and Joe, and I'm not going to feed you what you want to hear... why don't you go ahead and show me the actual proof or context that Fox made slanderous comments towards Dominion? This should be pretty simple for someone of your acumen and skill level, to put my lowly hick-arse in my place. Go ahead and find me the quote!
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10328 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 11:55 am to
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What SFP said...friend, you're the one in the bubble and you're resisting getting out with "questions".


Explain in context what the Fox hosts said about Dominion that is considered slander? Provide one quote, don't hide behind some court decision or a CNN article to form your opinion, give me the actual substance.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467010 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 1:04 pm to
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Explain in context what the Fox hosts said about Dominion that is considered slander?

They settled, so this isn't even relevant anymore.

I think that's the issue you don't grasp.

Just because having this trial threatened FNC more than settling doesn't make it some conspiracy.

Discovery killed FNC and would have completely destroyed the entire network.
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 1:07 pm to
This outcome sure makes Dominion look as pure as snow.
Who would question them now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467010 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 1:09 pm to
You think Rupert Murdoch is going to spend almost a billion dollars just to own Trump?
Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 1:13 pm to
What did I say that you disagree with Slo?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467010 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 1:27 pm to
It doesn't make Dominion look like anything other than 3/4 of a B richer. The merits were not decided at trial so it's hard to judge something that didn't happen.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/20/23 at 1:45 pm to
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It doesn't make Dominion look like anything other than 3/4 of a B richer.
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We agree to disagree.

cheers:

Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141566 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 1:46 pm to
jake, why would Fox agree to allow the terms of the settlement to become public?

seems off to me.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467010 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 1:48 pm to
I imagine Dominion demanded that.

As others have said, this is leverage for the litany of other suits they still have pending.
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 1:50 pm to
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Discovery killed FNC and would have completely destroyed the entire network.


The discovery that included Dominion employees making very similar statements to what Fox News hosts said or something else?
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