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re: There is a real problem with increased anthropogenic CO2......and it isn't AGW

Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:06 pm to
That's the pt, NC.
They use anomaly because it is based on a user determined normalization.

It's bunk
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:06 pm to
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You have a supposed phd in physics, surely you understand the carbonate cycle in the ocean, right?



Yes.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:08 pm to
I'm on my iPad so there is no pointer. You could have just as easily provided a link rather than trying to demonstrate your usual shitty persona.

Here's a pretty graph I like.

Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:09 pm to
So all these glaciers are melting and the word is coming to an end with a .5C swing in temps in 150 years? Does this pass the common sense test?
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:09 pm to
The carbonate cycle is a two way system that buffers the ocean. Unlike temperature which is mainly driven by the sun and had all sorts of boundary conditions affecting the feedbacks....

Ocean sustain IS driven by CO2 diffusing across the barrier. More CO2 means more diffusion based on the scientific chemical facts of the system.

This actually it's settled science. We have known about the carbonate system for a hundred years. We are seeing actual effects that really do concurred with models in this respect. This is a real problem
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:09 pm to
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That's the pt, NC.
They use anomaly because it is based on a user determined normalization.

It's bunk



It doesn't really matter. A person with a brain can look at the graph and subtract two numbers. Its a lot easier though if they aren't all three digits and in Kelvin.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:13 pm to
What is the solution?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:13 pm to
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This actually it's settled science. We have known about the carbonate system for a hundred years. We are seeing actual effects that really do concurred with models in this respect. This is a real problem



What is the solution?
Posted by LSUgusto
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:13 pm to
Would an effort to reduce acidification have a similar effect on industry like an anti-CO2 push would?
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:16 pm to
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Would an effort to reduce acidification have a similar effect on industry like an anti-CO2 push would?


Funny how it got quiet all of a sudden
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:20 pm to
No, because this is a chemical system, there are multiple solutions to prevent acidification.

Some of the answers are to phase out some CO2 production, however because the system is a buffering system, we can reduce it slowly, intelligently and the system will respond.

Residency time is high, and the system so large it isn't a we all gonna die problem. It's a real problem that does need to be addressed by adults, in advance, to prevent a catastrophe.
Posted by LSUgusto
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:23 pm to
You see this as more of a marine life threat, rather than a climate threat?
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:29 pm to
Wait! You have a PhD in physics and you had to start a thread on the O-T Board asking how to light your gas heater?!
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:32 pm to
Considering like 80 percent of the world's population relies on marine sourced protein, I see this as a humanity issue.

Unlike many on here may believe, I think it is important to make sure that the resources for people to use are available. Those who are eager to work hard and succeed are robbed if the basic necessity of a reliable source of protein is unavailable.

ETA, this is related to my field of study, but not where my research direction leads. I do not work on this topic, I get no grant money or even publish a mention of this topic.
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 10:35 pm
Posted by LSUgusto
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:34 pm to
What are the biggest contributors to ocean acidification?
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:37 pm to
Increased atmospheric CO2. Look up the marine carbonate buffering system. There are plenty of easy to understand diahrams and more complex explanations available.
Posted by LSUgusto
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:43 pm to
Wouldn't efforts to limit CO2 based on acidification rates resemble policies to thwart "climate change"? Just on a smaller scale?

ETA: Not on a "We all gonna die" scale?
This post was edited on 6/18/14 at 10:45 pm
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:47 pm to
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Wait! You have a PhD in physics and you had to start a thread on the O-T Board asking how to light your gas heater?!


Yes. And no. You're thinking of someone else. its very easy to light my gas heater. No matches needed.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 10:48 pm to
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No, because this is a chemical system, there are multiple solutions to prevent acidification.


Other than CO2 reduction, what?
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