re: The unwavering support of Ukraine

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You seem to think we need to be world police against any and all aggression.

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I think we need to keep our promises.

Let me ask you is Russia ever st fault. In Georgia? Chechna? Syria? Tajikistan? Ukraine?

Why do Sweden, Finland, the Baltic States fear Russia?

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Let me ask you is Russia ever st fault. In Georgia? Chechna? Syria? Tajikistan? Ukraine?

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It's all the CIA!! Nuland made a phone call, remember!! I'm not pro-Putin! (except I'll never say anything bad about Putin and only try to point out Ukrainian corruption).

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What exactly about Russia is evil? Why is Ukraine considered some kind of Paragon of Virtue?

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I wouldn't define Russia as evil, that's just silly nonsense people throw out there because they're too lazy to understand the issue or reason people would support Ukraine.

For me it's quite simple. Ukraine didn't invade Russia. Russia invaded and tried to capture their land. The last two times that happened in Europe in the modern era, the whole world went to shite.

Best to nip that shite in the bud early when it's cheap and won't cost American lives vs rolling the dice later.

We also assured them when they gave up their nukes that we'd guarantee their territorial integrity. I for one like to honor agreements. This war would have never happened if Ukraine had held onto those nukes and everyone knows it.

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Those Nazis are electing Jewish presidents now. How progressive!

You sound like a pathetic pink-haired leftist when you REEE about everyone being a Nazi, btw. But it's par for the course since you're also a Putin supporter.

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Again you ignorant fuk, I am not a Putin supporter. I am as ultra conservative as they come. You on the other hand have your nose so far up the MSM arse that you cant see or smell anything other than the shite they are serving you.

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I am as ultra conservative as they come.

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It's just that sometimes, I like supporting Communist dictators! But other than that, I'm like the most super-conservative person ever!

(Oh, by the way, have you checked out RT? It's my favorite TV channel.)

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You on the other hand have your nose so far up the MSM arse that you cant see or smell anything other than the shite they are serving you.

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The MSM always contradicts itself so if you always base your position against what they MSM says, you'll eventually contradict yourself also, Mr. Super Conservative Communist Dictator Supporter Guy. I hope that never happens to you, though.

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It seems clear that Ukraine surrendered its nuclear capabilities after the USSR breakup

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The Budapest Memorandum

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Doesn’t mean we are obligated to protect them or fund their wars.

You seem to think we need to be world police against any and all aggression.

I don’t, and in this case I believe that neocons in the US government were partly to blame for this war happening at all.

There is no reason to assume a failure to intervene in Ukraine (non NATO, no defense treaty) would cause Putin to believe he could invade a NATO member without a direct military response from the US so the correlation between the two events is highly tortured at best.

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We're not obligated, but it is in our interest not to have Europe be a flaming pile of shite.

There are plenty of wars around the worlds we don't give a frick about because they don't impact us (pick any conflict in Africa for the past decade).

Did we encourage Ukrainians to be pro west? Absolutely. Russia has ties to Lopez Obrador in Mexico, but I assume you don't think we're justified to roll tanks into Mexico city right? End of the day Russia invaded Ukraine to take them over. Every single time that happens in Europe thre works goes to shite. Beat to sip them now then to hope Putin won't do something stupid later. Hopium is what got Neville Chamberlain fricked.

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I didn’t think it needed answering. Comparing border breaches by immigrants to direct military invasion is asinine, and of course the US is going to provide aid to global partners experiencing the latter. Doing so may prevent a broader, direct conflict with NATO.

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Same Thing.

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Our promise not to get involved in Ukraine when the USSR split?

Because for the tenth time we don’t have a treaty we need to maintain here.

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Err wrong again for the tenth time.

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The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances comprises three substantially identical political agreements signed at the OSCE conference in Budapest, Hungary, on 5 December 1994, to provide security assurances by its signatories relating to the accession of Belarus, Kazakhstan and Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). The three memoranda were originally signed by three nuclear powers: the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States.[1] China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.[2]

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But for the 100th time, we aren’t responsible for fighting in every war involving a territorial dispute between other nations.

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I agree. And we aren’t fighting in this one.