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Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:01 pm to
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Capitalism means you get paid less than you're worth and contribute


People who believe in this are people who can't compete in the marketplace.

If you're not getting paid your worth, you're doing it wrong.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:01 pm to
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No, I'm an anti-state communist,


What commune do you live it?


You are anti state, yet promoting socialism.

You're a retard. Socialism reqiRES TOTAL state control


This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 3:03 pm
Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:04 pm to
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Become a boss.


Nah, don't want to exploit people.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:04 pm to
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so literally I believe everything should be voluntary associations


Except for your statement on socialism.

Oops.

You are too stupid to argue with.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:05 pm to
What commune do you dwell?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
63334 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:05 pm to
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30:15-44:00 mins
Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:06 pm to
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Socialism reqiRES TOTAL state control


This is literally what I'm saying you're wrong about. The most important part of communism, the start, the place where it all begins, the foundation, is that workers control the means of production. State authoritarian systems are awful. Private authoritarian systems are awful. Democracy in the workplace is the answer.
Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:08 pm to
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If you're not getting paid your worth, you're doing it wrong.


No, it's the structure of capitalism. If you have a job, your boss HAS to pay you less than the value you make for them. If they don't, they go out of business. It's the way that system of organizing an economy functions.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:08 pm to
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This is literally what I'm saying you're wrong about.


No stupid. Socialism is an economic term with a specific meaning.

Most socialists are too stupid to understand their own ideology.

Where is your commune?
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:09 pm to
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No, it's the structure of capitalism. If you have a job, your boss HAS to pay you less than the value you make for them. If they don't, they go out of business. It's the way that system of organizing an economy functions.


Not every job is McDonalds, dude.

Yes, let me pay some incompetent boob who will cost me more money with their mistakes than actually hiring someone competent and paying them their worth so they are happy.

Sound business strategy from a communist.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 3:11 pm
Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:10 pm to
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But I betcha he sure enjoys the fruits of Capitalism. He's probably on an iphone, living in a city



Have you ever seen this? This is you LINK
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:10 pm to
I was told by one of his trustfundian buddies the other day that humans were in a post work age.


These kids would starve within amonth without our charity.
Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:11 pm to
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Not every job is McDonalds, dude.


It's literally every job
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:12 pm to
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Sound business strategy from a communist.


Most are twenty something brats that are allergic to work.

They deserve to starve.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:13 pm to
What commune do you belong?

Or are you being a capitalist?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:14 pm to

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It's literally every job


That AA degree in sociology didn't prepare you for reality che.
Posted by AnarchoDawg
Member since Nov 2022
35 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:15 pm to
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These kids would starve within amonth without our charity.


Instead of making people rely on the whims of billionaires, we could just use all the excess wealth at the top to make sure that no one starves!

That's the funny part to me, a billionaire having all their material needs met and just not being allowed to control what other people get is somehow a tragedy to you, but a billionaire deciding based on their 'charity' who gets to eat makes them angels.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
12544 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:15 pm to
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Socialism means you get paid the same no matter how much contribute - the rest goes to the bosses. Smash socialism !!


I fixed it for you. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

You should read Animal Farm.
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 3:21 pm
Posted by Pechon
unperson
Member since Oct 2011
7748 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:15 pm to
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It's literally every job



No it's not. Your experience does not equate to mine, again this is an individual thing.

If you are not paid what you think you are worth it is up to you to solve that problem. Not me, not government, nobody but yourself. Again, if you don't think you're getting paid what you think you should be, you're doing it wrong....so very wrong.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297624 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 3:15 pm to
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Instead of making people rely on the whims of billionaires,


I don't.

You have the world view of a toddler.
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