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re: The Official Thread: Russia invades Ukraine

Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:31 am to
Posted by TexasForever
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:31 am to
Timmy, SDV, Bucky...break out the lube.

Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:45 am to
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BREAKING: International Court of Justice in The Hague orders Russia to suspend invasion of Ukraine
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:46 am to
Laughing at you for believing the Ukrainian reports that they sunk a ship.

The only ship the Ukrainians have a chance of sinking they already did. They scuttled their flagship in Odessa harbor.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:46 am to
Told you Ukrainian military won’t let people leave

Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:48 am to
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BREAKING: International Court of Justice in The Hague orders Russia to suspend invasion of Ukraine


Vlad's response.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:52 am to
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Rob Lee
@RALee85

"Ukraine and Russia have made significant progress on a tentative 15-point peace plan including a ceasefire and Russian withdrawal if Kyiv declares neutrality and accepts limits on its armed forces, according to three people involved in the talks."




Wasn't Zelenskyy just begging for NATO intervention to our US Congress?
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:56 am to
All they have to do is be neutral but the US won’t let them
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 10:58 am to
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Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:00 am to
Do you understand how negotiations work or nah?

The threat of NATO intervention in this conflict is a very real threat and something Russia should fear. It makes sense for zelensky to continue to push for this.
Posted by Vegas Eddie
The Quad
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:12 am to
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The threat of NATO intervention in this conflict is a very real threat and something Russia should fear. It makes sense for zelensky to continue to push for this


No threat of that whatsoever and everyone knows it
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:20 am to
OT news

Japan just had a 7.3 quake hit


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USGS Earthquakes
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Notable quake, preliminary info: M 7.3 - 57 km ENE of Namie, Japan
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:21 am to
If that were the case, then why invade in the first place?

The Russian apologists can’t have it Bo the ways… either nato is a real threat and Russia is justified in invading Ukraine… or they were never a real threat, in which case why is Russia invading?
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:24 am to
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zerohedge
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RUSSIA'S LAVROV SAYS ON UKRAINE: PUTIN HAS REPEATEDLY SAID THERE ARE NO HINDRANCES TO A MEETING WITH ZELENSKIY

RUSSIA'S LAVROV SAYS ON UKRAINE: WE HAVE REPEATEDLY SAID THAT UKRAINE TENDS TO LIKE HAVING MEETINGS FOR THE SAKE OF PUBLICITY
Posted by WokeGoBroke
Member since Mar 2022
327 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:30 am to
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If that were the case, then why invade in the first place?

The Russian apologists can’t have it Bo the ways… either nato is a real threat and Russia is justified in invading Ukraine… or they were never a real threat, in which case why is Russia invading?


Russia currently can't defeat NATO, but they can make it a draw by dropping a nuke or two.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33804 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:40 am to
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The Russian apologists




You are only upset because the media and corrupt politicians are telling you to be.

The warnings from multitudes of people have been out there for years clearly stating this would happen.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 11:52 am to
This has always been a US/Russia thing. Europe generally doesn’t want part of this. We are NATO
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3598 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 1:05 pm to
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either nato is a real threat and Russia is justified in invading Ukraine…


NATO is by its own charter a multination defense treaty. So, the simple dumb down version is if one country is attacked all the other country's will aid in its defense.

There is nothing in the treaty that sanctions any form of an "lets invade Russia together" obligation.

Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
33804 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 1:41 pm to
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Any take that includes "Putin has already lost" is hopelessly naïve in the extreme. Regardless of outcome, Russia and China will exit this Ukraine conflict with a completely changed global financial & trade system and the dollar weakened/removed.

You think that's "Putin Lost"?





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You really think Chicago crew don't know what they are doing?





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You don't spend a lifetime in the planning centers of how to "spread wealth" globally and fundamentally change Western Democracy, without thinking of the bigger big picture and ways, limitations, roadblocks that may impede the effort.



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Ultimately the most efficient approach is to look at historic reference points. Then weaponize the popular causes to assist their own demise because short-sighted people are plenty, and their big picture adversaries are few.





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When they encounter a person who might warn people not to follow the parade, they turn to the strategies of Saul Alinsky. Isolate, Ridicule, Marginalize.

Eliminate the warning flare by targeting it and covering it quickly. Control the media, deploy labels.





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Control over the boundaries allows subtle shifts and moves. Meanwhile inside the path of the gauntlet, continue to carry the popular banner that everyone follows and supports. [Pop Culture, Social Influence]





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When possible, and this becomes more critically important as you get closer to the objective, the intent and focus must narrow, get louder, become more intense to keep everyone moving in one narrow direction. Ex. "Zelenskyy the hero" is a pop culture strategy to maintain momentum





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The role of the villain becomes purposeful. Both interests must be positioned to be served by the outcome. The villain (Putin) will benefit on his ideological quest, and the larger objective of the Machiavellian 'fundamental transformation' planners are also fulfilled. Win/Win.





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By the time the masses in the parade wake up to the consequences, the "wait, what? moment", it's too late. The cattle cars arrive painted like a Disney monorail, and people get on board without question.



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Russia's War in Ukraine May 'Fundamentally Alter' Global Economic, Political Order - IMF




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Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69351 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 3:12 pm to
Can you start a separate thread for hot takes and just keep this thread to the battle reports from the ground?

No one really cares about how you view the conflict man.
This post was edited on 3/16/22 at 3:13 pm
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25062 posts
Posted on 3/16/22 at 3:14 pm to
Am I on Reddit? limit your crap man.
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