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re: The Obama Legacy

Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:13 am to
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17723 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:13 am to
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You're Exhibit A for why we need some of Obama's own people to rat him out.


until then let's just enjoy Obama's failures in his own words:

“More young black men languish in prison than attend colleges and universities across America”

“We signed into law the biggest middle-class tax cut in history”

“90 percent of the budget deficit is due to George W. Bush’s policies

“If you like your health-care plan, you can keep it”

“The day after Benghazi happened, I acknowledged that this was an act of terrorism”

“I didn’t call the Islamic State a ‘JV’ team”

“Republicans have filibustered 500 pieces of legislation”

“The Keystone pipeline is for oil that bypasses the United States”

“We have fired a whole bunch of people who are in charge of these [VA] facilities”








Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:20 am to
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“More young black men languish in prison than attend colleges and universities across America”


This is a fact. Are you not for criminal justice reform? What is wrong with amending this?

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“We signed into law the biggest middle-class tax cut in history”



At the time this is true? Are you against tax cuts for a majority of the country? How conservative of you?

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“90 percent of the budget deficit is due to George W. Bush’s policies


Did you forget 2000-2008 and the two wars we fought and how the Bush tax cuts+defense spending tanked our economy?

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“If you like your health-care plan, you can keep it”



Albeit, poor choice of words but we need to start at something to get to universal health care. No problem tho, your tax money already goes to pay for the healthcare of a jobless person with no insurance. You've been paying for it, get over it thats the way it will be. We live to together and will always subsidize some public utilities that we don't use for other. Part of being american and a good citizen and paying taxes and doing your civic duty? Dont want to do that? Get out of my country then.

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“The day after Benghazi happened, I acknowledged that this was an act of terrorism”



He did.

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“I didn’t call the Islamic State a ‘JV’ team


He did but he meant it to say that they were weak and that we'd defeat them. Trump is finishing what he started

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“Republicans have filibustered 500 pieces of legislation”


Facts, they were astonishing petty and vindictive towards him for 8 years. Honestly acted like spoiled little vengeful girls. Grown men dont at out with this type of spite.

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“The Keystone pipeline is for oil that bypasses the United States”



Should have never been drilled. The natives deserve their land.

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We have fired a whole bunch of people who are in charge of these [VA] facilities”


Whres the lie>?
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17723 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:24 am to
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More young black men languish in prison than attend colleges and universities across America” This is a fact. Are you not for criminal justice reform? What is wrong with amending this?


If only I had done some research before posting these!?!?!?


Oh, wait...


"This was a 2007 campaign claim by Obama, then a senator, that was wildly off the mark. In reality, there are five times more black men enrolled in colleges and universities than young black men in federal and state prisons — and two and half times the total number incarcerated (including local jails). Even if you expanded the age group to include African American males up to 30 or 35, the college attendees would still outnumber the prisoners."
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 11:25 am
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27102 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:25 am to
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You actually think Trumps legacy will be good?


Better than Carter's which means better than Obama's...

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ITs behind with the times, as time progress, there will be far viewer people with your views than opposite. Your ideologies are becoming extinct. And I think the affirmative action right knows this...thats why they are trying to consolidate power.


Can you type this again when you are not shaking and in Engrish please...

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There is nothing you can do to stop this.


What the frick is "this"? I thought we were discussing Obama's lack of a legacy...

Melt bitch...
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17723 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:26 am to
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We signed into law the biggest middle-class tax cut in history” At the time this is true? Are you against tax cuts for a majority of the country? How conservative of you?


"This 2011 claim was not based on a dollar figure but on dubious math — that supposedly 95 percent of working families received some kind of tax cut under the Making Work Pay provision in Obama’s stimulus bill. John F. Kennedy actually wins the prize for biggest tax cut, at least in the last half-century. By the same measure, the income tax provisions of George W. Bush tax cuts were more than twice as large as Obama’s tax cut over the same three-year time span. (While a large portion of Bush’s tax cut went to the wealthy, it also benefited the working poor.)"
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 11:26 am
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17723 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:27 am to
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“90 percent of the budget deficit is due to George W. Bush’s policies Did you forget 2000-2008 and the two wars we fought and how the Bush tax cuts+defense spending tanked our economy?


"During the 2012 campaign, Obama repeatedly reminded voters that he became president during a grim economic crisis. But he went too far when he claimed that only 10 percent of the federal deficit was due to his own policies. About half of the deficit stemmed from the recession and forecasting errors, but a large chunk (44 percent in 2011) were the result of Obama’s actions. At another point, Obama also falsely suggested that the Bush tax cuts led to the Great Recession"

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27102 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:28 am to
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Obama also falsely suggested that the Bush tax cuts led to the Great Recession"


You gonna make Skrong Safety stroke the frick out... lmao...
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17723 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:29 am to
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“If you like your health-care plan, you can keep it”


does this really need a rebuttal?

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The day after Benghazi happened, I acknowledged that this was an act of terrorism”


"Obama did refer to an “act of terror” in the immediate aftermath of the 2012 Benghazi attacks, but in vague terms, wrapped in a patriotic fervor. He never affirmatively stated that the American ambassador died because of an “act of terror.” Then, over a period of two weeks, given three opportunities in interviews to affirmatively agree that the Benghazi attack was a terrorist attack, the president obfuscated or ducked the question. So this was a case of taking revisionist history too far for political reasons."

This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 11:36 am
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17723 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:32 am to
meh, a couple more:

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“The Keystone pipeline is for oil that bypasses the United States” Should have never been drilled. The natives deserve their land.


"Long before Obama killed the Keystone pipeline project in 2015, he made a number of dubious claims about it, including that the pipeline would have no benefit for American producers at all. But the crude oil would have traveled to the Gulf Coast, where it would be refined into products such as motor gasoline and diesel fuel; the State Department said odds were low that all would be exported. Also, about 12 percent of the pipeline’s capacity had been set aside for crude from North Dakota and Montana."

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We have fired a whole bunch of people who are in charge of these [VA] facilities” Whres the lie>?

"Obama in 2016 misled the public about the number of people held accountable for the 2014 scandal over manipulated wait-time data at the Department of Veterans Affairs, which contributed to patient deaths. Congress responded by passing a law that sped up disciplinary actions for senior executive service employees. But when Obama made his statement in September, only one senior executive had been removed for a case involving wait time (though the actual firing was for an ethics violation"


Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:33 am to
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You actually think Trumps legacy will be good? 


3.6% unemployment rate, bro.

Of course, I guess you and Ilhan Omar will counter by saying that work is a white supremacist construct.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7178 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:40 am to
Obama's legacy can be readily summarized into two parts: (1) First Black President, and (2) Obamacare.

The first part represents a triumph for our country, whose original sin and whose otherwise exemplary record as a republic was stained by racist laws from its inception through the end of Jim Crow in the 1960s. You do not have to like Obama or believe in his policies to recognize this enormous, entirely positive component of his legacy.

The second part of his legacy is far more complex. Yes, the ACA provided health insurance to millions who did not have it, but it came at a tremendous cost. The legislative finagling was extreme, especially for such a massively important bill, and the ACA caused premiums to skyrocket for millions of Americans who had been happy with their healthcare. President Obama said that if we liked our health plan, we could keep it and that simply wasn't true.
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18064 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:50 am to
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“If you like your health-care plan, you can keep it”


“poor choice of words” - StrongSafety

You misspelled “bald-faced lie.”
Posted by jackamo3300
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2004
2901 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:59 am to
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"He was inspirational" "He made us feel safe"


Who could challenge that? He was the prime inspiration for the remarkable increase in guns and ammo sales.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:30 pm to
Sotomayor and Kagan are obama's most lasting legacies and they will spew forth one non constitutionally backed ruling after another fo the next 25-30 years.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
Coral Gables
Member since Sep 2017
5700 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:54 pm to
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Are you not for criminal justice reform?


How about quit fricking committing violent crimes at a rate of near 25 times others groups?
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17723 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:04 pm to
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Sotomayor and Kagan are obama's most lasting legacies and they will spew forth one non constitutionally backed ruling after another fo the next 25-30 years


Thanks for that triggering reminder

Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21318 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:11 pm to
The perfect summary of the Obama legacy... LINK
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:16 pm to
First gay president.

First foreign-born President.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105403 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:17 pm to
He was exposed for being trash and hating America.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20367 posts
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:18 pm to
He was Black Jesus who was leading us all to the Promised Land when that big orange devil Trump came onto the scene and threw a monkey wrench into the works.
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