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re: The Location of the Shooter of the 1st shot can be inarguably found
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:13 pm to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:13 pm to IvoryBillMatt
I think he was hit by rapid fire, which if came from roof was coming at a more downward angle. Which would explain if he was covering or going to cover sort of lower of why he got hit.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:18 pm to Chad504boy
I like John and glad he’s doing the leg work on this but he looks bad telling the guy he’s copying his work from a video that isn’t even his.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:20 pm to RobbBobb
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Not one sniper team turned to any other direction than that rooftop, once firing began?? Its not that hard
Not sure you’re understanding that window 3 and roof top spot are only off by a couple degrees to snipers on barn 2. They wouldn’t need to turn per se at all. Plus once rapid fire started, that was the roof top spot just a degree or two from a window that they couldn’t see the gun fire
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:35 pm to Chad504boy
What is the difference in height relative to the ground between the two? Is the window shooter a little further away?
Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:46 pm to LCA131
Whatever evidence of a bullet impact I know is somewhere is somewhere on these rails or the backside of these rails. The red white blue curtains should make it easy to find a hole. This is off body cam footage video



Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:51 pm to Chad504boy
Possible mark of a bullet impact


Posted on 7/26/24 at 8:55 pm to Chad504boy
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just keep trying to understand what i'm saying.
sorry - obviously you have devoted hours and days poring over numerous information sheets, done some original computations, consulted with many experts --
We are just trying to understand what you are saying without having to duplicate your days and days of effort.
I've consumed technical jargon for 30 years and generated quite a bit of it myself.
I have no idea what you are trying to say - I need more info that is understandable.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:03 pm to ChineseBandit58
Most SIMPLY put.
See the pic above your post?
What if I found the precise spot that the same bullet that Trump’s ear travels and hits next.
Experts would then be able to figure out exactly the trajectory of where the shooter of shot 1 is located.
See the pic above your post?
What if I found the precise spot that the same bullet that Trump’s ear travels and hits next.
Experts would then be able to figure out exactly the trajectory of where the shooter of shot 1 is located.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:23 pm to Chad504boy
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What if I found the precise spot that the same bullet that Trump’s ear travels and hits next.
I asked you questions about the relative height of the window where 'your' shooter was but you ignored me. Is that a tactic learned from the SS chick?
How much would the slug be deflected from an ear? You need to know that.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:26 pm to LCA131
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I asked you questions about the relative height of the window where 'your' shooter was but you ignored me.
I don’t really have precise stuff on that man. I mean your guess on that could be as good as mine. Here’s an officer outside of window 1 same height as other one

This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:35 pm to Chad504boy
But wouldn't that be CRUCIAL to all of your calculations and theories....man?
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:41 pm to LCA131
Sure. But I don’t have all that info and calculations and precise heights of everything. I’m a nobody trying to use my brain.
What I’m doing is simply making straight lines on aerial and eliminating all other options except for a trajectory line that inbetween window 3 and maybe crooks rooftop location can work and be on line of these 2 points. I think window 3 works best, best guess. I have other reasons why I’m leaning to that spot too.
What I’m doing is simply making straight lines on aerial and eliminating all other options except for a trajectory line that inbetween window 3 and maybe crooks rooftop location can work and be on line of these 2 points. I think window 3 works best, best guess. I have other reasons why I’m leaning to that spot too.
Posted on 7/26/24 at 9:52 pm to Chad504boy
And hell, what I’m putting together may PROVE the shot had to come from a certain elevation higher up and maybe be on slightly downward trajectory if trump ear is higher than railing mark if I have that correct.
This post was edited on 7/26/24 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 7/27/24 at 1:21 am to SirWinston
The line of the bullet along the back row also in line w the rooftop SS snipers makes sense and I believe this. I do not believe there was a sniper on the water tower. When trump was pointing at the video board his head was not at the same angle as the arm he was pointing with but instead at an angle in line w Crooks.
The two snipers coordinated to fire at the same time. Could the 2nd sniper have been a govt agent who had promised Cooks he would take out the snipers while Cooks job was to take out Trump and get away clean? The govt agent then missed the SS snipers on purpose who lived to eventually take out Crooks to eliminate the conspiracy evidence.
The two snipers coordinated to fire at the same time. Could the 2nd sniper have been a govt agent who had promised Cooks he would take out the snipers while Cooks job was to take out Trump and get away clean? The govt agent then missed the SS snipers on purpose who lived to eventually take out Crooks to eliminate the conspiracy evidence.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 7:38 am to ifyoubuildit
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The line of the bullet along the back row also in line w the rooftop SS snipers makes sense and I believe this. I do not believe there was a sniper on the water tower. When trump was pointing at the video board his head was not at the same angle as the arm he was pointing with but instead at an angle in line w Crooks. The two snipers coordinated to fire at the same time. Could the 2nd sniper have been a govt agent who had promised Cooks he would take out the snipers while Cooks job was to take out Trump and get away clean? The govt agent then missed the SS snipers on purpose who lived to eventually take out Crooks to eliminate the conspiracy evidence.
All wrong. Simultaneous timed shots, come on, bogus. He’s having to make up another shooter in random trees to make this work then talks about a ladder getting over fence as proof they looking at a tree in distance. Hunting ghosts bro. The shot hit off the railing, same sight line as Trump’s ear. I’m also pretty damn confident I found the impact mark. What I circled ain’t a coincidence to what I saw and circled in OP then later found in multiple screen grabs of high quality video.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 9:58 am to Chad504boy
Trumps stage is maybe 4’ height after further research. Any input here welcome. LINK bleachers
He’s like 6’3, gets hit in top of ear. He was slightly bent and leaning to podium. His ear is dang near close to 10’ off the ground. Maybe a hair more.
I looked up 10 row speedy bleachers. Pretty sure I found exact bleacher. 12’2” unfolded height. I’m thinking that’s pretty much height of the rail mark nearly. Maybe slightly lower even around 12’ unless I’m missing another peak height of bleachers. I’m possibly thinking there are arms sticking straight up off top rails which give the 12’2” height. This could out rail mark back to the 11’2”-11’4” height maybe.
I guess I’m saying I think the trajectory is leaning to some type of slight upward trajectory still. It’s about 30 yards from Trump ear to railing mark distance.
No idea how this relates to height of building either on roof or ground level top of window height.
ADDING:
Window 3 to Trump 130 yds plus 30 yds to railing.
Info on height of bleachers click on additional info
LINK
Back to a 10”-12” rise… would put took shot a 4-6’ rise in total.
He’s like 6’3, gets hit in top of ear. He was slightly bent and leaning to podium. His ear is dang near close to 10’ off the ground. Maybe a hair more.
I looked up 10 row speedy bleachers. Pretty sure I found exact bleacher. 12’2” unfolded height. I’m thinking that’s pretty much height of the rail mark nearly. Maybe slightly lower even around 12’ unless I’m missing another peak height of bleachers. I’m possibly thinking there are arms sticking straight up off top rails which give the 12’2” height. This could out rail mark back to the 11’2”-11’4” height maybe.
I guess I’m saying I think the trajectory is leaning to some type of slight upward trajectory still. It’s about 30 yards from Trump ear to railing mark distance.
No idea how this relates to height of building either on roof or ground level top of window height.
ADDING:
Window 3 to Trump 130 yds plus 30 yds to railing.
Info on height of bleachers click on additional info
LINK
Back to a 10”-12” rise… would put took shot a 4-6’ rise in total.
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:23 am to Chad504boy
My final best guess searching everything I can find.
Roughing out a 10” rise from ear to rail. That means a 53” rise total from shooter. Gauging the height of fairgrounds groundlevel is about 3’ high on building due to slope , this would make top of window height pretty darn in line.
Roughing out a 10” rise from ear to rail. That means a 53” rise total from shooter. Gauging the height of fairgrounds groundlevel is about 3’ high on building due to slope , this would make top of window height pretty darn in line.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 11:59 am to Chad504boy
I think you make some very valid points and we should never take anything we're being told and expected to believe about this at face value. Between the audio and video analysis, I have a hard time believing it was a .223 that fired the first shot. To me it doesn't make any sense from that far away to hit multiple objects and continued to travel a velocity high enough to atomize at the railing. Just using my dumb old common sense, it had to be a higher caliber weapon.
Posted on 7/27/24 at 12:43 pm to OU81TOO
Appreciate the kind words. It’s hard enough having this drive you nuts then you have to deal w a few select assholes. That doesn’t bother me but it’s striving for getting as many people to see where I’m coming from and trying to do the best honest job I can with what I’m working with.
You’re right, the shot off the rail is nuts. I know it’s a bullet but that shot defection is crazy and I’m not even sure I understand the path. I know we know a minimum of 4 were hit, I’m thinking it could have been at least 5-6 that got grazed or smoked by the ricochet.
You’re right, the shot off the rail is nuts. I know it’s a bullet but that shot defection is crazy and I’m not even sure I understand the path. I know we know a minimum of 4 were hit, I’m thinking it could have been at least 5-6 that got grazed or smoked by the ricochet.
This post was edited on 7/27/24 at 12:44 pm
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