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re: The issue I have with this whole “privilege” thing going around lately.

Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:19 pm to
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Normal = privilege

Anything less than normal is no longer considered behind, but rather the basis by which things should be measured. Instead of people striving to better themselves and their families, they are berating others for having a normal life.



Exactly, and if we’re all on the bottom with dysfunctional upbringings, then everyone is even and the race is fair. I wonder what political ideology this thought process best epitomizes. Hmmmm.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:21 pm to
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What about adding,
Take two steps back if you waited to have kids until you were emotionally ready

Take two steps back if you chose to spend money on food and school for your family before tobacco, drugs and alcohol for yourself

Take two steps back if your first stop on payday is the casino

Take two steps back if you ever posted a picture of yourself and SO and a bottle of courvoisier


These are all kids. Make a video with adults and post the results.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:22 pm to
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He then gets them to race, and of course the blacks in the back were last to finish,


This is bullshite. Go pull some white kids out the trailer park and some black kids out the upper class subdivision and it would all be even.

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if it were an even race, the blacks would smoke the white kids. 



1. That's quick twitch muscle fiber privilege.

2. That's not an even race if the black kids win every time but it is indicative of the progressive mentality.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:26 pm to
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This is bullshite. Go pull some white kids out the trailer park and some black kids out the upper class subdivision and it would all be even.


It wasn't just black kids who finished last. There were white people who never took a step either.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:27 pm to
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There were white people who never took a step either.


Did the black kids beat those white kids?
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:34 pm to
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Did the black kids beat those white kids?





So you didn't even watch the video? Just quoted someone else's thoughts about it and formed your own opinion on the video?
Posted by Rougarou13
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:38 pm to
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I wonder what political ideology this thought process best epitomizes


I'll give you three guesses.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:40 pm to
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So you didn't even watch the video? Just quoted someone else's thoughts about it and formed your own opinion on the video?


Well I am an average American, so.... Yeah.

ETA:

I just watched the video. He says: "if we all started at the same time, I know some of the black dudes would smoke all of you".

That is all kinds of fricked up to say, but of course he sees nothing wrong with it.

Also, he keeps harping on "nothing you've done got you this head start". Yeah dude. No shite. It's things my parents did. And things I'll do for my kids. It's not some magical white magic. It having family values and good parents. That's not a white people thing. And it's not something the winner of that race can fix. Dumbass. frick that dude and I stand by my earlier statement.
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 12:48 pm
Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:46 pm to
If you watch the video, objectively the only big issue to take with it is the guy saying some of those black folks would smoke everyone thus making it about race. But at its core, the video is correct in that in life some folks are born into advantageous positions in life. Don't see what the issue is with that.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:49 pm to
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the video is correct in that in life some folks are born into advantageous positions in life. Don't see what the issue is with that.


My issue is he acts like theyre born into that via magic. It's not magic or racism or privilege. It's hard working parents.
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:52 pm to
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It's things my parents did.


Damn right. It's my mom taking me to the library in the summer and reading books to me and helping with homework and my dad working 16-17 hour days and 2 jobs to give us a life we didn't deserve.

Posted by 13SaintTiger
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:53 pm to
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My issue is he acts like theyre born into that via magic. It's not magic or racism or privilege. It's hard working parents.




I didn't get that from the video at all but okay. I thought the point of it was to recognize that some people have it easier in life than others. It isn't like the folks who had the head start didn't run so the people behind could catch up. It was a representation of life, at its core.

Now you can make your own arguments and tangents on why some folks have it better than others but that wasn't the point of the video.
This post was edited on 10/14/17 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 12:54 pm to
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He then gets them to race, and of course the blacks in the back were last to finish

I agree it's sort of silly but at least he does recognize some of the family problems that cause blacks to fall behind.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 1:04 pm to
Privilege implies that it's something that you didn't earn. If there is a white privilege it's because somebody bled, sweated or died to create this country that we all are so privileged to live in. You want some privilege work for it. Right now I see a bunch of whiny crybabies making excuses.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 1:04 pm to
Is he recognizing that these problems need to be fixed or is he stigmatizing functional behavior? Most liberals tend to do the latter. Google "nuclear family privilege".
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 1:07 pm to
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he recognizing that these problems need to be fixed or is he stigmatizing functional behavior?


Basically the latter. Which is my problem. He also says the winner of the race should use the winnings to go back and help the loser.
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 1:11 pm to
One one hand progressives actively try to stifle any attempts to encourage traditional families in the black community, on the other hand they say it isnt fair that blacks dont have traditional families...
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 1:24 pm to
There should be an alternative race:
Take three steps back if you didn’t finish high school. Take two steps back if you do drugs. Two steps back if you have a child out of wedlock.

This race not only shapes your own future, but that of your child’s outcome.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 1:26 pm to
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There should be an alternative race:
Take three steps back if you didn’t finish high school. Take two steps back if you do drugs. Two steps back if you have a child out of wedlock.


Exactly. It's not that the "privileged group" is ahead. They're at the starting line. It's that the rest of the group that's starting way back from the line
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 10/14/17 at 1:30 pm to
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One one hand progressives actively try to stifle any attempts to encourage traditional families in the black community, on the other hand they say it isnt fair that blacks dont have traditional families...


And you know you what you don’t hear? You don’t hear anyone placing blame on radical feminists for promoting the idea that women don’t need fathers to raise children. You don’t hear anyone wagging their fingers at people like the Lifetime network for rarely putting husbands and fathers in a positive light. These are the same who demonize old TV shows depicting traditional nuclear families like Leave it to Beaver, and Father Knows Best for being fictitious and unrealistic shows of American home life, but championing all shows with single moms making it on their own. It’s like a complete reprogramming of Americans has been going on for some time now, and nobody seems to recognize the effects of destroying the traditional American family unit has had on our society. It’s like it’s just one great conincidence.



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