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re: The IDF was overrated and failed on October 7.

Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:00 pm to
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:00 pm to
How can you fail when you intentionally let something happen?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170446 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:05 pm to
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Source?


LINK

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Israeli officials obtained Hamas’s battle plan for the Oct. 7 terrorist attack more than a year before it happened, documents, emails and interviews show. But Israeli military and intelligence officials dismissed the plan as aspirational, considering it too difficult for Hamas to carry out.

The approximately 40-page document, which the Israeli authorities code-named “Jericho Wall,” outlined, point by point, exactly the kind of devastating invasion that led to the deaths of about 1,200 people.

The translated document, which was reviewed by The New York Times, did not set a date for the attack, but described a methodical assault designed to overwhelm the fortifications around the Gaza Strip, take over Israeli cities and storm key military bases, including a division headquarters.

Hamas had even posted videos online about them training for this attack

The Israelis are saying that it was an intelligence failure and it may have been. They may have also allowed it to happen but we don't have any concrete evidence to show that so it's just speculation.

We do know that on October 7th they generated horrific stories that didn't happen like 40 infants being beheaded. As soon as they start fabricating stories out of thin air, it makes the sane among us to start asking questions. If they're willing to make up stories about beheaded infants do you think we should just blindly trust that this was an intelligence failure?
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:13 pm to
The IDF allowed it happen because they desired the eventual outcome. That’s reality.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:13 pm to
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The IDF was overrated and failed on October 7.




Lol.... ok.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2043 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:14 pm to
If it means dead terrorists who cares. As long as we don't have boots on the ground over there.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170446 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:17 pm to
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If it means dead terrorists who cares

They're killing a lot more innocent civilians than terrorists

If a regime is lying about their intentions they can't be trusted

And this same regime routinely tries to drag us into their affairs, severely crippling American interests.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
83325 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:20 pm to
Man those blood thirsty frickers will murder anyone!

They got Epstein and everything!

Hamas those innocent Palestinians don't stand a chance!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170446 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:22 pm to
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They got Epstein and everything!

All signs are pointing to that

You're just blissfully unaware of it
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
83325 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:24 pm to
All signs from Democracy Now!!
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:25 pm to
A regime like Hamas?
Posted by lotik
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:25 pm to
I know for a damn fact none of you fricks read a 8000 word article.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2043 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:28 pm to
Sorry I wasn't clear terrorists, future terrorists, and terrorist factories. Also maybe those innocent civilians shouldn't allow terrorists to take over their country and use hospitals and schools as shields. But they do cause they are you know.....terrorists
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170446 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:29 pm to
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All signs from Democracy Now!!

It would be incredibly unlikely to discover that Epstein doesn't have ties to Israeli intelligence

His accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell is the daughter of Robert Maxwell who has ties to MI6, the KGB, and Mossad

The prevailing theory about Epstein is that he ran a honey trap operation to entrap powerful people in government and media doing terrible things and then used the threat of blackmail to influence things, presumably for the state of Israel. It's possible he could have been working for some other foreign entity of course. It's pretty well known that he was an intelligence asset for someone though.
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2043 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:30 pm to
So you listed three Intel agencies with which Maxwell could have had ties but only singled out one. Why is that?
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
83325 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:39 pm to
The prevailing theory here is your a nutbag.

Hamas and from the river to the sea is it
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170446 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:40 pm to
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So you listed three Intel agencies with which Maxwell could have had ties but only singled out one. Why is that?

I acknowledged he could have ties to other agencies



Posted by Mobile Patriot
Mobile
Member since Aug 2024
740 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:42 pm to
Around a week after the attack, the Egyptian defense minister let the cat out of the bag. Their intelligence got wind the attack was coming and notified Israel 10 days before Oct 7. If they knew, you can guarantee Massud and the CIA knew. Somebody intentionally shut down Israeli response capability beforehand.
Keep in mind that Netanyahu was in deep trouble politically and criminally before the attack.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170446 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:50 pm to
They even killed some of their own hostages and soldiers on October 7th under their "Hannibal Directive"

This is known to Israelis, but not common knowledge to people in western countries
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 6/2/25 at 2:59 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
170446 posts
Posted on 6/2/25 at 3:00 pm to
This actually happened

Whether you believe it or not doesn't change the facts
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