re: The erroneous concept that man is basically good leads to many errors

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Is Jesus human nature good?

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This gets into the need for a virgin birth and a new seed, or a new Adam.

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God created Lucifer and the fallen angels. Are they also good?

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Yes, but by their own choice they chose evil. Angles are more complicated because they exist outside of time as God does. But they are created by God and therefore are in their nature good as all angles are in their nature good. Nothing not even Lucifer himself has an evil nature.

This is basic philosophy, Aristotle Aquinas and others.

God cannot create evil, it’s impossible.

If God is all good than any evil he creates would take away from the truth that he is all good.

It is the basic reason why the founding fathers set up the government with “checks and balances”. Power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely

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The erroneous concept that man is basically good leads to many errors

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you are correct. And, it's just as bad in churches as it is outside them.

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That may be so, but if so God must bestow that grace on some who don’t believe in him, because many agnostics, and even atheists, live saintly lives doing good and giving charity.

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How many of those are Democrats running our current government?

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This is a Catholic teaching that I don’t believe is scriptural. In the Bible, belief always precedes baptism. It’s impossible for an infant to understand he is lost and needs salvation.

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You’re welcome to believe what you want, but in your belief, at what point is original sin removed from us?

At what point is original sin removed from us?

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Simply playing Devils Advocate here, and don’t feign to have all the answers.
Where did the evil come from that caused Lucifer to fall?
Was it just floating around in the atmosphere?

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The problem of evil is a complicated one. As Aquinas would explain is that evil is the absence of good, as darkness is the absence of light. We speak of darkness but it doesn’t really exist it simply is the absence of something.

I don’t really know what to say beyond that.

I just hold to the idea that God is good and he cannot create evil. How does that allow evil to exist in the world has been debated for as long as man has been able to reason.

I would argue as Thomas does, it doesn’t exist but is rather the absence of good. Just as darkness is the absence of light.

It’s a complicated matter and I’m sorry if I made it sound simple.

This video from a Thomist may help explain my perspective of things. I learned from it too!

LINK

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A man’s sin is removed when he repents and is born again.

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That’s a Protestant belief. But I honestly don’t necessarily disagree with it so long as it includes the Sacrament of Baptism, although I’m a Roman Catholic. I think there must be some point at which man can remove the original sin and start a life baptized in the blood of Christ, who died to remove our original sin.

Whether it be as an infant or in adult life, thereafter we must still do daily battle against the temptation of the evil one and sin.

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That’s a Protestant belief.

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Let me ask you this. You say it’s a Protestant belief that we must be born again to inherit eternal life right?
What about Nicodemus?
He was part of the Sanhedrin, a religious leaders, a scholar. By all accounts, a moral and just man. A very religious man.
But what did Jesus tell him when he asked about eternal life?
Did Jesus say, just keep doing what you are doing now Nicodemus and you will be fine?
Nope!
He said,” unless you are born again, you’ll never see the kingdom of God.”