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The discussion of civil war is irresponsible and ignorant.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:45 am
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:45 am
"Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation. War is hell."
To disagree with your fellow citizen is to practice democracy. To protest and organize and speak your mind is to practice democracy. To remove statues at a local and state level because the elected leaders do not care for the message conveyed by them is to practice the principles of the Republic sought by the founding fathers. To call for revolution because you can't handle a differing opinion is irresponsible to a level that borders on dangerous.
Your opinion is not muted, your voice not unheard. Regardless of who says what on whatever cable channel that exists, your avenue to speak and share your opinion is broader now than it has ever been in the past. Technology will only further fuel the spread of ideas and ability to communicate to the wider world or wall yourself off in echo chambers where you don't have to suffer the self-aggrieved wrong of a differing opinion. But to believe the destruction of democracy is an avenue to pursue because opinions differ is the opinion of a child who cannot reason when someone doesn't give him his way.
To disagree with your fellow citizen is to practice democracy. To protest and organize and speak your mind is to practice democracy. To remove statues at a local and state level because the elected leaders do not care for the message conveyed by them is to practice the principles of the Republic sought by the founding fathers. To call for revolution because you can't handle a differing opinion is irresponsible to a level that borders on dangerous.
Your opinion is not muted, your voice not unheard. Regardless of who says what on whatever cable channel that exists, your avenue to speak and share your opinion is broader now than it has ever been in the past. Technology will only further fuel the spread of ideas and ability to communicate to the wider world or wall yourself off in echo chambers where you don't have to suffer the self-aggrieved wrong of a differing opinion. But to believe the destruction of democracy is an avenue to pursue because opinions differ is the opinion of a child who cannot reason when someone doesn't give him his way.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 7:54 am
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Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:48 am to CollegeFBRules
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Technology will only further fuel the spread of ideas and ability to communicate to the wider world or wall yourself off in echo chambers where you don't have to suffer the self-aggrieved wrong of a differing opinion.
There has never been as much information available to the masses. There has never been more disinformation available to the masses. We've walled ourselves off, surrounded by our biases, confirmed by the widespread push of ideas and are content to stay there.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:49 am to CollegeFBRules
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To remove statues at a local and state level because the elected leaders do not care for the message conveyed by them is to practice the principles of the Republic sought by the founding fathers.
wth
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:49 am to CollegeFBRules
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To remove statues at a local and state level because the elected leaders do not care for the message conveyed by them is to practice the principles of the Republic sought by the founding fathers.
Dumb
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:50 am to CollegeFBRules
Solid post.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:00 am to CollegeFBRules
What we are seeing is a result of the Fedgov growing its power. The founding fathers believed in power to the states, in which you are somewhat correct. If the locality majority wants something, it was to go to its local leadership and push for change. More power to the states would allow for the removal of a statue (for example) at a local level.
What we've allowed with the FedGov power and a complicit media, is a small vocal minority to dictate rule across the country. It isn't localized. It's a movement that has effectively silenced the majority and pushing fear for change at the national level.
If states still had any power, this national divide movement would have trouble gaining steam in red states.
What we've allowed with the FedGov power and a complicit media, is a small vocal minority to dictate rule across the country. It isn't localized. It's a movement that has effectively silenced the majority and pushing fear for change at the national level.
If states still had any power, this national divide movement would have trouble gaining steam in red states.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:02 am to LSU Patrick
Some wold call for the removal of the coliseum in Rome because it was built for the entertainment of the masses watching slaves kill each other.
What about the pyramids?
Aren't they monuments to the greatest slave owners in history?
What about books? There are some of those that a percentage of the public don't care for, remove those from public librarys too?
Worse... stupid.
What about the pyramids?
Aren't they monuments to the greatest slave owners in history?
What about books? There are some of those that a percentage of the public don't care for, remove those from public librarys too?
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Dumb
Worse... stupid.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:02 am to themunch
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To remove statues at a local and state level because the elected leaders do not care for the message conveyed by them is to practice the principles of the Republic sought by the founding fathers.
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wth
He's correct. It doesn't mean your leaders make good choices though.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
Yeah, less than 1% of the population is going to throw us into civil war.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:08 am to CollegeFBRules
Keyboard warriors are some of the most reprehensible folks around. Great post.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:10 am to ehidal1
Name me one federal official who has ordered the removal of a statue.
It's all been governors and mayors. Federalism is working.
It's all been governors and mayors. Federalism is working.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 9:03 am
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:10 am to CollegeFBRules
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To remove statues at a local and state level because the elected leaders do not care for the message conveyed by them is to practice the principles of the Republic sought by the founding fathers. To call for revolution because you can't handle a differing opinion is irresponsible to a level that borders on dangerous
People object to the government doing this without input from the populace. 70% of Americans think the statues and monuments should stay, yet government decides to remove them anyway. Would seem to be the opposite of what the Founders intended.
Liberals are acting like ISIS and al Quaeda, smashing antiquities because they are offended. What's next, and where does this attempt to erase history end?
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:18 am to Flavius Belisarius
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People object to the government doing this without input from the populace. 70% of Americans think the statues and monuments should stay, yet government decides to remove them anyway. Would seem to be the opposite of what the Founders intended.
And that's what elections are for, my friend. To punish those that would act opposite of their constituents wishes with their job.
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Liberals are acting like ISIS and al Quaeda, smashing antiquities because they are offended. What's next, and where does this attempt to erase history end?
Equating statues with antiquities is testing the limits of a decent comparison, but I'll say that erasing markers of history does nothing to change history. The democracy does not end when a statue comes down, and if it means enough to some to espouse the virtues of war to defend that history, a more productive use of one's zeal would be to campaign for the return of the statue or a statue that conveys the history in a way that a majority of people can accept until a statue is erected. But calls for war or acting as if something truly incendiary is brewing is a dangerous use of one's passion.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 8:40 am
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:18 am to boosiebadazz
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Federalism is working.
Federalism and states rights are suddenly popular with the left...
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:22 am to CollegeFBRules
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To disagree with your fellow citizen is to practice democracy. To protest and organize and speak your mind is to practice democracy. To remove statues at a local and state level because the elected leaders do not care for the message conveyed by them is to practice the principles of the Republic sought by the founding fathers. To call for revolution because you can't handle a differing opinion is irresponsible to a level that borders on dangerous.
Your opinion is not muted, your voice not unheard. Regardless of who says what on whatever cable channel that exists, your avenue to speak and share your opinion is broader now than it has ever been in the past
I was once young and ignorant.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:24 am to CollegeFBRules
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"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Federalism and states rights are suddenly popular with the left...
I like the part where he pounded his hand on the pulpit and told us all about technology. Didn't you... it deeply moved me.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
That poster was complaining about the federal government. The federal government hasn't done anything with the statues
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:26 am to Flavius Belisarius
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People object to the government doing this without input from the populace
There was no input from the populace when most of this CSA garbage was erected. A large percentage of the population could not even vote then.
Posted on 8/19/17 at 8:28 am to CollegeFBRules
The thing you fail to understand young padawan, is that the statues are not a cause. They're a symptom of something much larger.
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