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re: The Coup In Romania Proceeds To Next Stage With A New “Election”
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:47 am to Nevada_Tiger
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:47 am to Nevada_Tiger
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This is an irrelevant aside to the larger issue that the will of the people in Romania is being suppressed
It seemed relevant enough for him to include it in the op. The question is why
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Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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Is NATO building it or is a NATO member (Romania) building it?
Best I can tell is that it is a collaborative effort…
Articles mention the base being planned and work begun by the NATO Investment Committee and also Romania financing much of the construction to the amount of anywhere from $2-2.5B.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:50 am to SlowFlowPro
Distract, deflect, divide. Care to comment on the larger point of the peoples' vote being lawfared and the initial election round being nullifiied?
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:50 am to LuckyTiger
Romania finds itself at the epicenter of a political maelstrom, following the unexpected cancellation of its presidential elections on December 6, 2024. The Romanian Constitutional Court cited alleged Russian interference as the rationale behind this drastic move, claiming that the favored candidate, Calin Georgescu, received undue support from Moscow through online channels. However, no concrete evidence has been presented to substantiate these claims, leaving the Romanian populace divided and disillusioned. The situation has taken on an international dimension, with US intelligence sources indicating that former US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken and his assistant, James O’Brien, are under investigation for potential connections to this political fiasco. Allegedly, they, alongside former Romanian Foreign Minister Lumini?a Odobescu, lobbied to influence Romanian authorities to annul the elections. This raises questions about the extent of foreign involvement in Romania’s domestic affairs.
Amidst this chaos, Russia appears to be the only benefactor, as regional disorder aligns with its strategic interests. The ongoing Russian-Ukrainian conflict further complicates the situation, with Moscow seemingly poised to exploit the instability in Romania to its advantage. LINK
Amidst this chaos, Russia appears to be the only benefactor, as regional disorder aligns with its strategic interests. The ongoing Russian-Ukrainian conflict further complicates the situation, with Moscow seemingly poised to exploit the instability in Romania to its advantage. LINK
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:51 am to LuckyTiger
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Articles mention the base being planned and work begun by the NATO Investment Committee
That was the evidence I asked for
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:52 am to Nevada_Tiger
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Care to comment on the larger point of the peoples' vote being lawfared and the initial election round being nullifiied?
Already did months ago in real time
Most counting in Europe have much different election systems than what we are used to. In typical American fashion, ours are more free and less regulated.
This post was edited on 5/4/25 at 7:54 am
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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That was the evidence I asked for
Do your own research, loser. Stop derailing threads with useless garbage and irrelevant nonsense.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:56 am to SlowFlowPro
I must've missed your brief but from the statement here, it sounds like you are implying there is nothing to see and move along. Everything is on the up and up.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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That was the evidence I asked for
Yes, counselor.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 7:57 am to Nevada_Tiger
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it sounds like you are implying there is nothing to see and move along. Everything is on the up and up.
No my comments more that we had this discussion and many people just want to get dopamine hits from being emotional about it. This obsession with repeating things over and over again will never make sense to me outside of that paradigm
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:01 am to SlowFlowPro
Do you consider spending level commitments, which have also been discussed repeatedly, to be a larger issue than the will of the people being overruled?
A simple yes or no will suffice.
A simple yes or no will suffice.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:02 am to Nevada_Tiger
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Do you consider spending level commitments, which have also been discussed repeatedly, to be a larger issue than the will of the people being overruled?
There isn't a ranking of importance.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:04 am to ABearsFanNMS
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I thought a Romanian court just over-ruled the election court and put him back on the ballot.
If so, that court was overturned or invalidated too.
No, he’s still banned and under house arrest. From the BBC…
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In February, US Vice President JD Vance sharply criticised Romania for that decision, sending shockwaves through a Romanian political establishment which leans heavily on its special relationship with the US. Georgescu was nevertheless barred from taking part in today's rerun.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:07 am to LuckyTiger
A link to the BBC article for other posters
If this is a common sentiment
I can see the conspiracy theories starting up again
If this is a common sentiment
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"I can't really imagine Simion in here…" Ionut, a satirical writer, tells me beside an ornate waterfall, looking up at the palace walls. He voted for Simion in the first round of the election last November, out of anger at the constant delays to Romania's full membership of the Schengen free-travel zone. And frustration with Romania's outgoing president, Klaus Iohannis.
But Romania finally joined the Schengen land-borders on 1 January, and Iohannis stepped aside the same month. "Romanians are less angry now," he believes. He told his daughter he will vote for Nicusor Dan in this election, but hasn't quite made up his mind.
I can see the conspiracy theories starting up again
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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There isn't a ranking of importance.
what is wrong with you Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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There isn't a ranking of importance.
That's an impressive, but irrelevant and cowardly, dodge. I have to assume you know answering honestly would undermine whatever point it is you are trying to make.
Even if you consider them tied for first, or 1a and 1b it would still be a more honest response.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:08 am to SlowFlowPro
Lol no one cares
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:09 am to Proximo
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what is wrong with you
Nothing. I just understand this
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Most counting in Europe have much different election systems than what we are used to. In typical American fashion, ours are more free and less regulated.
...and don't feel the need to constantly melt down over it like some others.
If I thought it was a better system, I'd live in Europe somewhere, but I don't.
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:13 am to SlowFlowPro
Romania's GDP is $350 billion. 2.4 % of that is $8.5 million. No one is building a military base to accommodate 50,000 personnel for that paltry sum.
Dang, I'm complicit in the thread hijacking!
Dang, I'm complicit in the thread hijacking!
Posted on 5/4/25 at 8:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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Most counting in Europe have much different election systems than what we are used to. In typical American fashion, ours are more free and less regulated.
Are you saying the issue here is they just count the ballots weird?
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