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Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:10 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:10 am to
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He ran as a non interventionist. Do you understand the difference?



No he only opposed prolonged military intervention like the Afghanistan war.


You are just making shite up.


And his opposition to NATO was not NATO itself, its the countries not paying their share.



In his first term he killed Suleimani.



I get your memory goes in old age, but come on man. He's used aggressive tactics since his first term.


But one thing he hasn't done yet is start any new US occupations. Which is what he ran on.




This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 11:17 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295858 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:15 am to
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You are just making shite up.


No, you just changed.


quote:


"We will stop racing to topple foreign regimes that we know nothing about, that we shouldn't be involved with," Trump said. "Instead, our focus must be on defeating terrorism and destroying ISIS, and we will."
Trump's rhetoric was similar to what he said during the election campaign when he railed against the war in Iraq.
In Fayetteville, he vowed a strong rebuilding of the U.S. military, which he suggested has been stretched too thin. Instead of investing in wars, he said, he would spend money to build up America's aging roads, bridges and airports.


Read that last line again.
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 11:16 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85732 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:17 am to
He launched missile strikes in 2017 and 2018 — classic intervention.


Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
6366 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:19 am to
Good thing we have a "journalist" that offered to buy a little girl braces for sex

Get to the bottom of things Gaetz!!!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295858 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:19 am to
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He launched missile strikes in 2017 and 2018


Youre getting it. He's a liar. He runs as a non interventionist, then lets the Neocons rule.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85732 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:20 am to
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Instead of investing in wars, he said, he would spend money to build up America's aging roads, bridges and airports.



Right, if we go and occupy Venezuela you would be correct.


Trump so far has not gone full scale occupation on anyone, like the Afghanistan war he criticized so much.


Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85732 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:20 am to
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Youre getting it. He's a liar. He runs as a non interventionist, then lets the Neocons rule.


You are just making shite up dude.


The guy that has intervened did not run as a non interventionist. He ran against prolonged wars.



A noninterventionist wouldn't increase military spending or keep our troops in Korea and Japan. You are giving Trump that moniker. Trump never gave himself that.











This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 11:24 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295858 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:23 am to
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Right, if we go and occupy Venezuela you would be correct.



No, any regime change makes me correct.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295858 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:24 am to
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You are just making shite up dude.


Nope. Trumps own words.

Turn swords into plowshares, and of course he had no intention of doing so.
Posted by geauxtigers
biloxi ms
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:24 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85732 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:26 am to
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Nope. Trumps own words.

Turn swords into plowshares, and of course he had no intention of doing so.



Okay then link me to Trump calling himself a non interventionist.


He has been against prolonged ground war occupations. Not against striking when necessary.


Your problem is Trump doesn't live up to what you made up.




Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295858 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:27 am to
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Okay then link me to Trump calling himself a non interventionist.



I did. if you need more..

quote:

In a speech in Riyadh in May, President Donald Trump denounced generations of US interventionism, saying the Middle East was only made worse by Americans who fly in "giving you lectures on how to live and how to govern your own affairs."
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 11:29 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85732 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:29 am to
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No, any regime change makes me correct.



WRONG

Your quote you provided.


quote:

"We will stop racing to topple foreign regimes that we know nothing about, that we shouldn't be involved with,"



This does not mean what you are saying.



This also doesn't mean he campaigned as being a non interventionist.


Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85732 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:31 am to
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I did. if you need more..

quote:
In a speech in Riyadh in May, President Donald Trump denounced generations of US interventionism, saying the Middle East was only made worse by Americans who fly in "giving you lectures on how to live and how to govern your own affairs."



Again, where is the quote from trump saying he's non-interventionist.





"In a speech in Riyadh in May, President Donald Trump denounced generations of US interventionism,"


Trump didnt say this part, in case you struggle with how quotes work.



Trump has mixed nonintervention themes with aggression. This doesn't make him a non-interventionist.



And with regards to Venezuela, their citizens are in our country killing our citizens. So, I am fine with the selective intervention and always have been.


Just like with Ukraine. Protect our border first, get that secure, then maybe think about helping Ukraine.








This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 11:37 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295858 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:34 am to
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"We will stop racing to topple foreign regimes that we know nothing about, that we shouldn't be involved with,"



This does not mean what you are saying.


All youre doing is making excuses of why its ok for Trump to lie straight to your face.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295858 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:35 am to
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Again, where is the quote from trump saying he's non-interventionist.





Its hilarious watching y'all become neocons overnight. Read what he said...
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
4632 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:35 am to
Bunk, what happens if Venezuela starts recruiting young Israeli men to drive these boats?

Would that change your perspective?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85732 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:39 am to
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"We will stop racing to topple foreign regimes that we know nothing about, that we shouldn't be involved with,"



This does not mean what you are saying.


All youre doing is making excuses of why its ok for Trump to lie straight to your face.




We should be involved with south American countries and Canada.


They are our neighbors.




quote:

Its hilarious watching y'all become neocons overnight. Read what he said...



You want trump to be an isolationist.


I am asking trump to protect our borders, and that includes drug traffickers from Venezuela.








This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 11:41 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295858 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 11:42 am to
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We should be involved with south American countries and Canada.


At least y'all dont hide it anymore.

America first became "The Americas First."

Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
3151 posts
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:08 pm to
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RogerTheShrubber
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