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re: Super Bowl had largest drop off of viewers in its history

Posted on 2/6/18 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 2/6/18 at 1:36 pm to
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Someone should let FOX know after what they just paid for Thursday Night Football

Lo frickin' L

ESPN is planning on dumping Monday Night Football because they overpaid. Just because FOX does something similarly stupid, isn't a good argument
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Massive Subscriber and Ratings Losses Could Force ESPN to Dump Monday Night Football

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one analyst is noting that it would make good business sense for cable sports network ESPN to simply give up its $15.2 billion commitment to broadcast NFL games.
Posted by drake20
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/6/18 at 1:45 pm to
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ESPN is planning on dumping Monday Night Football because they overpaid. Just because FOX does something similarly stupid, isn't a good argument



You're right, a much better argument is what ESPN could do in the future

Where in either of those quotes does it say that ESPN is planning on doing it btw? There goes that reading comprehension again

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The writer points out that “when ESPN agreed to pay $15.2 billion for its current Monday Night Football deal,” Monday Night Football was the biggest game of the week. But since ESPN struck its deal, that most-popular status shifted to Sunday’s game leaving ESPN with a lesser broadcast property.


Interesting

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Miller further speculates that ESPN’s owner, Disney Corp., might just force ESPN to dump the NFL because of the hole the sports network is burning in Disney’s profits. In August it was reported that ESPN’s hemorrhaging of subscribers and asvertisers added to Disney’s financial woes as the cable network’s profits fell another $1.46 billion.


"might just force" now equals "planning"

Lo frickin' L indeed

Apparently your speculation is better proof than the literal negotiation that just happened

/done
This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 1:46 pm to
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Speculative melts are fun.


I quoted the LA Times article’s answer to your question. Nothing more nothing less

-It did not cost them this year as there is no viewership guarantee

-CBS will be negotiating commercial slot value based on a 7% smaller audience.


I don’t see a melt, I don’t see anything outlandish.

Post a ROTFL emoji if you want, or explain why you think CBS will maintain 5mil per 30 seconds next year. I’m open to discussion.
This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 1:49 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 2/6/18 at 1:49 pm to
They missed a helluva game.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71542 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 1:50 pm to
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I quoted the LA Times article’s answer to your question. Nothing more nothing less


You bolded a portion that you thought was relevant. It wasn't.

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-CBS will be negotiating commercial slot value based on a 7% smaller audience.


They'll be negotiating based on the most watched product on television.

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I don’t see a melt


This doesn't matter.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 1:53 pm to
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Speculative melts are fun

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I don’t see a melt


This doesn’t matter




???

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71542 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 1:54 pm to
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???


It's there, whether you see it or not.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 1:55 pm to
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You bolded a portion that you thought was relevant. It wasn't.


It is relevant to the question of costing them money. It did not this year, may next year

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They'll be negotiating based on the most watched product on television.


There we go, some substance. Yes it is, it will still reach less people though. Advertisers could easily invest more heavily in others mediums and spend less on SB ads.. I don’t know the answer
This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 1:57 pm
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/6/18 at 1:57 pm to
Actually the issue was created by the media and Trump being the savvy politician that he is dimply echoed what many of us were thinking.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71542 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 1:59 pm to
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It is relevant to the question of costing them money.


No it isn't. Speculation means nothing to this discussion.

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There we go, some substance.


The substance was there. No reason I should need to break it down for anyone that feels they can intelligently discuss the topic.

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I don’t know the answer


Well, it's a good thing I already gave the answer, then.
This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 2:03 pm
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27898 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:03 pm to
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Where in either of those quotes does it say that ESPN is planning on doing it btw?

Jon Gruden left the MNF announcers booth to take a coaching job for a reason
Posted by drake20
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
13123 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:05 pm to
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Jon Gruden left the MNF announcers booth to take a coaching job for a reason



=/

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Where in either of those quotes does it say that ESPN is planning on doing it btw?


So it didn't say it, got it. Just pure speculation again yet you're laughing at an actual deal just made for a very substantial increase.


Oh yea, Gruden had $100 million reasons. $10 million per year > $6.5 million per year

This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:05 pm to
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Only Trump could declare war on a $40 billion American industry

Actually he didn’t!
He “declared war” (only a delicate snow flake would see this as war ) on a racist, unpatriotic, and anti-police organization (BLACK Lives Matter).
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not see the hypocrisy in his rant

I see your hypocrisy Big12fan!

What is your lies/day quota?

Oh, by the way, Mussolini was a socialist. Therefore Bernie was the closest to him in the last election.

Edit: Thanks for the downvote. I noticed you couldn’t refute truth!
Edit2: 2 down votes! 0 refutations!
Edit 3: 3 down votes! 0 refutations! I’ll be here all night!
This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 7:57 pm
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:06 pm to
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Well, it's a good thing I already gave the answer, then.


Your speculation that it won’t affecf commercial slot value?

If Zero people tuned in to the super bowl NBC still gets 5 million per 30 seconds. So the future is relevant as that is all that’s affected

My quote says viewership drop will affect CBS negotiations next year, that is a fact. In a negative way is speculation, but far from unfounded.

If viewership increased that’s good right, its likely rates would go up next year? It’s not that crazy to think a 7% loss in vewiership is “not good”
This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 2:09 pm
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71542 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:07 pm to
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Your speculation that it won’t affecf commercial slot value?


No.

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that is a fact


No it isn't.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:08 pm to
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Jon Gruden left the MNF announcers booth to take a coaching job for a reason
$100 million dollars may have something to do with it, and maybe the opportunity to coach again for that ridiculous amount?
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:12 pm to
So you are speculating yourself when saying vewiership won’t affect price.

And you are saying it’s a fact that # of projected views will have no bearing whatsoever on CBS negotiating time slots.


We’ll have to agree to disagree. No point in arguing further
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71542 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:13 pm to
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So you are speculating yourself when saying vewiership won’t affect price.

And you are saying it’s a fact that # of projected views will have no bearing whatsoever on CBS negotiating time slots.


Nope.
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:19 pm to
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So you are speculating yourself when saying vewiership won’t affect price.

And you are saying it’s a fact that # of projected views will have no bearing whatsoever on CBS negotiating time slots.

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Nope



Gotcha. So viewership will affect negotiations and price, viewership is on a downward trend.

We’ll see if prices hold or drop. That’s speculation right now, it’s not crazy to expect a drop. We’ll see
This post was edited on 2/6/18 at 2:21 pm
Posted by volinktown
Member since Apr 2017
452 posts
Posted on 2/6/18 at 2:21 pm to
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Down from 114M

Which is like losing the entire population of Louisiana, 3 times




The loss are immigrants expelled from this country.
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