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re: Sub Human barbaric and they mostly get a pass

Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:35 am to
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:35 am to
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Religion blows my mind

The stupidity of some of the religious blows my mind. The verse you quoted, in its context, makes a lot of sense.

If you and I are pals, and I'm having to carry a cross to the other side of town so that some Guido can nail me to it and leave me to die, and some guy says to you, "Hey aren't you ballscaster's buddy? Shouldn't you be helping him carry that since you're his best friend?" and you say, "No, I don't know that guy," then you're a dick, and the first thing I tell God when I get to Heaven will be, "Let me know what it's going to take to make sure ReauxlTide222 burns for all eternity. I can't believe he dicked me over like that."

Now, if I'm staring down a barrel, and Derka tells me that his #1 hobby is shooting Christians in the face with his gun, and he asks me what religious faith I practice, I'm going to say whatever gets me out of that room and back home with my family BECAUSE I'M NOT RETARDED.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:36 am to
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To you it's different. To that man denying his religion wasn't an option. Alot of Christians believe that denying your faith; however slight, is a sin worthy of damnation. You can laugh at that notion, but it's what they believe.
And that's dumb. Sad dumb, not funny dumb.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:39 am to
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Now, if I'm staring down a barrel, and Derka tells me that his #1 hobby is shooting Christians in the face with his gun, and he asks me what religious faith I practice, I'm going to say whatever gets me out of that room and back home with my family BECAUSE I'M NOT RETARDED.


Posted by BRUNNIN4
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:41 am to
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Telling a crazy person that I'm not Christian so the crazy person doesn't shoot me isn't denying knowing Jesus.

According to the Bible they are one in the same
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What Peter did was throw his friend under the bus to get himself out of a jam. That is much different from avoiding engaging with an insane person with a gun pointed at you.

Jesus had already been arrested, Peter's actions didn't have an effect on Jesus. If Peter would have confirmed that he was a follower of Jesus, then he too would have been arrested and killed, likely by crucifixion. I'm not sure why you seem so fixated on the weapon of choice and the mental health of the aggressors when the outcome would have been the same.

ETA: It might not seem "rational" to non-Christians, but this is what we believe.
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 11:44 am
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:43 am to
this husband is in the exact same place peter is in
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:43 am to
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I'm not sure why you seem so fixated on the weapon of choice and the mental health of the aggressors when the outcome would have been the same.
You don't understand my point at all. Your view on this topic is insane.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:44 am to
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this husband is in the exact same place peter is in

And he'll never be able to practice his faith again.
Posted by Paluka
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:45 am to
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Putting yourself and your family at risk to appease the insane demands of the insane is not a demonstration of faith; it is a demonstration of poor judgment.


Do you actually believe that these crazy frickers running around playing islamic jeopardy were NOT going to shoot this guy? He was Christian and chose to answer honestly. Chances he could have answered their jeopardy question was likely small so he probably would have been killed anyway.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:45 am to
in a religion where rules are made up on the fly, I think jesus would have let that one little lie go in order to protect his wife and stay alive.

just my opinion.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:46 am to
So when he quizes you on the tenets of Islam how long beforr you eat a bullet? That's what they were doing.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:46 am to
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Do you actually believe that these crazy frickers running around playing islamic jeopardy were NOT going to shoot this guy?

they were shooting christians and anyone that was not a muslim. they let the muslim people they questioned go.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:46 am to
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The stupidity of some of the religious blows my mind. The verse you quoted, in its context, makes a lot of sense.


The verse, in it's context, is bat shite crazy. I could tweak it and use it in my everyday life, hell, that's exactly what I do.

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If you and I are pals, and I'm having to carry a cross to the other side of town so that some Guido can nail me to it and leave me to die, and some guy says to you, "Hey aren't you ballscaster's buddy? Shouldn't you be helping him carry that since you're his best friend?" and you say, "No, I don't know that guy," then you're a dick, and the first thing I tell God when I get to Heaven will be, "Let me know what it's going to take to make sure ReauxlTide222 burns for all eternity. I can't believe he dicked me over like that." Now, if I'm staring down a barrel, and Derka tells me that his #1 hobby is shooting Christians in the face with his gun, and he asks me what religious faith I practice, I'm going to say whatever gets me out of that room and back home with my family BECAUSE I'M NOT RETARDED.




You explained that brilliantly.
Posted by BRUNNIN4
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:47 am to
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You don't understand my point at all. Your view on this topic is insane

You're right there, I don't understand your arbitrary distinctions on martyrdom for a religion you don't practice.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:47 am to
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So when he quizes you on the tenets of Islam how long beforr you eat a bullet? That's what they were doing.


I doubt there was much of a dialogue. sounds like they were asking one question, are you a muslim or not?
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:48 am to
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Do you actually believe that these crazy frickers running around playing islamic jeopardy were NOT going to shoot this guy? He was Christian and chose to answer honestly. Chances he could have answered their jeopardy question was likely small so he probably would have been killed anyway.
Not an unfair point. If the writing is on the wall, might as well suck it up. My point is that if you're in a situation where you're asked whether or not you like Animaniacs, and at stake with your answer is you getting gang-raped by child prisoners, you do what you have to do to not get gang-raped. Likewise, if your get-out-of-jail free card is saying anything other than that you're Christian, cash it in. That's not what Peter did, and it takes quite a misinterpretation of the context of the Gospel to conclude that it is.
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:50 am to
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You're right there, I don't understand your arbitrary distinctions on martyrdom for a religion you don't practice.
Go talk to someone else. Your ability to discuss a topic semi-intelligently is hindered by your hasty conclusions about my religious faith, as if my faith were relevant at all to this topic in the first place.
Posted by BRUNNIN4
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:51 am to
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in a religion where rules are made up on the fly, I think jesus would have let that one little lie go in order to protect his wife and stay alive.

just my opinion.

Jesus never sinned so I doubt he would have gone against one of the Ten Commandments
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:51 am to
Religion is bad period. It poisons everything because it isn't based in reality thinking. I believe in a conscious intelligence behind the universe and life but once man starts conceptualizing that intelligence from his frame of reference you get the idiocy that is formal religion and all that flows from that.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:52 am to
i'm just saying, i think god would "let it slide".

heck, you could always just ask for forgiveness and ***voi la!***

all is forgiven
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 11:53 am to

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Jesus never sinned so I doubt he would have gone against one of the Ten Commandments


people sin everyday according to the bible yet a lot of them "go to heaven", right?

i think "god" in this situation would let it go. just my opinion.
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