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re: Study Confirms Vaccine-Linked Myocarditis Deaths for First Time

Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:32 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:32 am to
Sweet. Now we can get back to the point.
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5346 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:49 am to
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Isaac Azimov nailed people like you and your proud to be stupid ilk.
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”

Asimov was right, but you are a little confused about who is ignorant. This vaccine was based on a new delivery technique (mRNA) that has never been given to large numbers of people before. The vaccine also has the gene for the covid spike protein which anyone with an IQ over 40 knows was a product of the lab that published papers on gain of function experiments specifically on bat corona viruses, and not the wet market that was two blocks away. If you take the combination of new delivery method and genetically engineered spike protein, only an absolute fool (or a psychopath) would give the vaccine to anyone that was not severely at risk. I suggest that you pull your head out of your arse, read the 2015 paper from the Wuhan Institute of Viral Research, and look at the history or mRNA vaccines. Then, now that the data is out, study the fricking data given to the FDA showing how "safe and effective" the vaccine was for the trial group. For 99% of the population, there was no risk from the virus and a shite pile of risk from the vaccine. Just because people are not dropping dead at a breathtaking rate now does not mean they won't be in the future.

Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4635 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:02 pm to
Not only did Congress not vote on vaccine mandates the Federal mandates exempted Congress from the mandates.The official excuse was that the executive branch doesn’t control the legislative branch.Sounds like bullshite to me.A federal mandate,if there is one,should apply to all associated with the Federal gov’t.
I don’t know about anyone else but to me that doesn’t pass the”smell test”.

Dr.Robert Malone advised against mandates and mass vaccinations because “we don’t know the long term side effects”.His position was that only those at high risk should take the vaccine.

Dr.Geert Vander Bosch ( renowned virologist) warned against mass vaccinations for fear of driving mutations.5 or 6 variants later it seems his fears have been realized.


Dr. Harvey Risch (Professor Emeritus Immunology,Yale) was likewise against mandates and mass vaccination.

Dr.Peter McCullough (highly esteemed physician) was recruited by Baylor and later dismissed for advocating against mass vaccination,instead advocated early
treatment with ivermectin.

These highly esteemed physicians (and there are others) can’t all be wrong.I sure as hell trust them more than Fauci and our corrupted CDC,FDA and NIH.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46029 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:09 pm to
Have you noticed that any physician or scientist, regardless of expertise, credentials, relative experience, or outright direct connection to the specific treatments was immediately labeled a crackpot and cancelled for stating very fundamental and obvious things about virology.

And argumentative leftists of the unwashed rabble, on an anonymous message board, will be quick to chirp about anti-intellectualism and science denial on the right.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125227 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:10 pm to
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Dr.Peter McCullough (highly esteemed physician) was recruited by Baylor and later dismissed for advocating against mass vaccination,instead advocated early treatment with ivermectin.


Hell, McCullough was vilified for suggesting steroids as a treatment for Covid. Lolzy.

Clown world.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 12:11 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46029 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:22 pm to
He could have easily added Dr Michael Yeadon, former chief scientist at Pfizer to the list. As well as Dr. Kerry Mullis who brought us the vaunted PCR technology, and Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, Z-Stack inventor, who dared to successfully treat COVID with conventional medications.

Instead, we listened to Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci - a tech oligarch and a political chameleon who hasnt treated a patient in 50 years.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:28 pm to
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Dr Michael Yeadon, former chief scientist at Pfizer to the list


Of their respiratory division, who had no training in vaccines, which obviously didn't stop him from speaking about them.

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. As well as Dr. Kerry Mullis who brought us the vaunted PCR technology


He died in August of 2019.

Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:29 pm to
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Hell, McCullough was vilified for suggesting steroids as a treatment for Covid. Lolzy.



He also said that the vaccines could be reverse transcribed into the human genome, entirely misunderstanding the article he cited. It was impressively retarded.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46029 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:39 pm to
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Of their respiratory division


Sweet. COVID19 is a respiratory disease. He commented repeatedly on the reality that this pandemic would behave much like other viruses, was not as lethal as billed, would feature a measure of natural immunity, and that extreme mitigation protocols were not needed. Oops! He was right. Had we listened, the vax mandates likely never happen.

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He died in August of 2019.


And? He was pretty clear about the limitations of PCR testing in the years leading up to the Pandemic. Yet, in spite of that, they were billed by bureaucrats as something infallible. He too, was right.


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crazy4lsu


Its still real to you, isnt it?
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 12:40 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125227 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:40 pm to
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He also said that the vaccines could be reverse transcribed into the human genome, entirely misunderstanding the article he cited. It was impressively retarded.


Know what wasn’t retarded? Using steroids as a Covid treatment.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125227 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:42 pm to
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Of their respiratory division, who had no training in vaccines, which obviously didn't stop him from speaking about them.


If there were 10 doctors sitting in a rooms and they heard two presentations, one from Yeadon and one from crazy4lsu, who do you think they’re listening to?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46029 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:42 pm to
I once said something inaccurate at a superbowl party and now everything I've ever done or said in life is tainted bullshite. That's how you do science.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:46 pm to
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If there were 10 doctors sitting in a rooms and they heard two presentations, one from Yeadon and one from crazy4lsu, who do you think they’re listening to?



What are the presentations on? Immunology? Pharmacology of the respiratory system?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:48 pm to
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Know what wasn’t retarded? Using steroids as a Covid treatment.



Or any general anti-inflammatory which modulates IL-1 response.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:52 pm to
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He commented repeatedly on the reality that this pandemic would behave much like other viruses


What?

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was not as lethal as billed


The CFR at the moment seems to disagree. It already has a higher CFR than several diseases for which we already vaccinate.

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nd? He was pretty clear about the limitations of PCR testing in the years leading up to the Pandemic


What are the limitations?

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Its still real to you, isnt it?



What do you mean?
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 12:54 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46029 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:54 pm to
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What are the presentations on? Immunology? Pharmacology of the respiratory system?


Cuckoldry


But if qualifications matter as you imply, you cant escape the utility of warnings from these people, since the pandemic and ensuing response was a multi-dimensional endeavor.

Why were these opinions worth less than that of people like Walensky, a biochemist who practiced for barely a decade before becoming a career bureaucrat?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46029 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:00 pm to
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What do you mean?


Either you are arguing just to hear yourself argue, or you are clinging onto a narrative that not even the talking heads who initially promoted it still maintain.

Im guessing the former.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:02 pm to
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Cuckoldry


Lol.

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But if qualifications matter as you imply, you cant escape the utility of warnings from these people, since the pandemic and ensuing response was a multi-dimensional endeavor.



But the content of their arguments matters more. That rarely did we see histopathology or evidence of cellular injury patterns from the people who stated so openly that the vaccine had extremely high injury rates is exceedingly curious and odd thing.

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Why were these opinions worth less than that of people like Walensky, a biochemist who practiced for barely a decade before becoming a career bureaucrat?



She's a biochemist? I thought she was an infectious disease specialist? Regardless, the content of her arguments also matter. I don't think I've agreed with anything the CDC has done for a while, given that they've essentially given up on possible passive control measures, which is fundamental to controlling any disease spread. Vaccination by itself is a terrible strategy when the disease doesn't have a viral exanthem or enanthem or any pathognomonic sign. I said that extremely early on in the pandemic, because that was the key differentiating characteristic between this pathogen and others that we've controlled.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46029 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:04 pm to
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the vaccine had extremely high injury rates is exceedingly curious and odd thing.


In a relative sense, they were. The true lethality of COVID-19 was, and still is, not fully determined and the Vaccine had injury rates much higher than what was historically tolerated - yet we were told from on high to take it or lose our livelihoods.

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Vaccination by itself is a terrible strategy


OK, so what are you arguing with us about?
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 1:07 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125227 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 1:05 pm to
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What are the presentations on? Immunology? Pharmacology of the respiratory system?


Dealers choice. I have bad news awaiting your response.
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