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re: Steven Crowder: Male Privilege Is A Myth | Change My Mind

Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:19 am to
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:19 am to
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Pussy is fricking undefeated. Wars have been fought, and empires toppled, for pussy.


Henry VIII is maybe the most based person ever.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:20 am to
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I don't understand why anyone would have to prove that considering that women, not even a hundred years ago, couldn't vote, in the 50s and 60s women were taught to be stay at home caretakers,


First off, time is linear. "Not even a hundred years ago" isn't right now. We are past that point in time. We're speaking about today, not decades ago.

Also many feminists did't want women to have that right because historically that right was granted because you could be drafted and be forced to go off and fight in a war.

The reason democracies and republics came about was because soldiers got tired of going off to war and fighting/dying and having zero say in how their country is run.

No telling how many millions of men had to die in wars in order for the right to vote to even become a thing. Women got it for free. When you look it at like that, its the women who have privilege since they got it for free. Even today women aren't draftable.

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men got away with a lot more sexual harassment and really this issue is just starting to change etc.


Citation needed.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:20 am to
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Men are more likely to commit suicide


Self inflicted

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Men are less likely to attend college.


Not as intelligent or willing to work as hard.

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Men are more likely to experience violence.


Well fricking duh. Men inflict violence more. Usually on each other. Also, men wage war on each other across the planet mostly for no good reason. At the end of the day it's been a real good look for men.

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Women usually receive lesser sentences for similar crimes.


I'll have to look into this but it seems like it's possible. I wonder if any of this study or any information that you're basing this off of exist and if it does if it shows a correlation between how many prior crimes that were committed. Seems to me that men commit much more crimes.

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Women receive favorable treatment in divorce and child support proceedings.


Yeah they're also much more likely to be there for the child in general.

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Also, if you watched the video, and if you have looked at the media recently, you may have noticed that women in the #MeToo are believed without having to offer a shred of proof. I don't see that as being male privilege.


Well it isn't male privilege because there's a movement to try to even things out even though I don't believe it's really going to work that way. Real change takes time. Real change takes a lot of time. Having said that, women have been sexually harassed at a disproportionate rate since the beginning of time so I'm not sure where you're going with this.

It's a ludicrous Point made by a ludicrous troll and You Were Somehow falling for it Hook Line & Sinker



Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:21 am to
Crowder's "Change My Mind" series is excellent.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:21 am to
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Not as intelligent or willing to work as hard.


Yeah, it's only men who built the modern world...
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:23 am to
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But it's not like men just pressured women into this role because "Patriarchy".



Women are better caretakers but in the 50s and 60s specifically they were taught to take a backseat to whatever ambitions a man would have and you know that's true. I don't understand how you haven't seen the patriarchy throughout history but it's certainly exists and it has certainly hindered women since the beginning of time. Now I do believe we're starting to move closer towards the middle which is where we need to be but let's not act like it's completely even or has always been that way because that's just asinine
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:25 am to
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in the 50s and 60s women were taught to be stay at home caretakers,


And, yet, "feminists" shite all over other women who continue to choose to do this, even though it is absolutely the best thing for children.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:26 am to
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Yeah, it's only men who built the modern world...


I love it when people say shite like this like we have somehow achieved something truly special. We are still very backwards as a species and haven't even come close to our full potential.

I'm all for being alive and enjoying any Creature Comforts while I can and while there are definitely a cheap mints that have been made technologically and the like we are still a selfish primitive piece of shite species that resists Evolution so hard.

Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:28 am to
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Pussy is fricking undefeated. Wars have been fought, and empires toppled, for pussy.


This pussy has been raped a lot too and told to take a backseat to whatever man is in power. Wars being fought and Empires toppled for pussy usually didn't involve the wishes of the pussy in question.

You can't be seriously trying to use this point of view. The fact that you are attributing the actions of men, with their own free will, to the existence of pussy is actually more of a disadvantage for women because they get blamed for such activities that didn't involve any decision-making of Their Own. I hope that makes sense to you because it really needs to
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:29 am to
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Women are better caretakers


How people of your view can make the argument that all things are equal yet make dismissive arguments against the negative aspects of the male experience is bewildering.

You've just stated that suicide rates is "Self-inflicted" so cannot be helped. Yet if we the roles were reversed I feel that we would see a major political campaign to stem the "systemic" suicide rates of women. I dare say it would also be attributed to "Patriarchy".

You've also just stated that men are "less intelligent" as a reason for why college attendance is down. Yet again, if the roles were reversed and female attendance was down, it's now considered a systemic failure of society.

To put it short, you're either trolling, or you lack complete self-awareness.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:30 am to
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I love it when people say shite like this like we have somehow achieved something truly special. We are still very backwards as a species and haven't even come close to our full potential.


Backwards as a species? As opposed to what? A cow that stands in his own shite 24 hours/day.

We don't have all the answers to every question but frick you if you think we haven't come a long way in a relatively short period of time. Especially since the turn of the 20th Century.

You have a truly sorrowful outlook on life and I genuinely feel sorry for you.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115143 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:31 am to
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I love it when people say shite like this like we have somehow achieved something truly special. We are still very backwards as a species and haven't even come close to our full potential


I have yet to see a hospital built by dolphins.

I have yet to see an airplane built by gorillas.

To my knowledge, not one dog has built a personal computer or smartphone.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:32 am to
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To put it short, you're either trolling, or you lack complete self-awareness.


Says the guy with a bitter attitude towards female equality. You just put out a bunch of hypotheticals as if they were reality and use that to stem your anger. Maybe you are the one that lacks complete self-awareness
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28004 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:33 am to
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Self inflicted


Same goes for transgendered community, so its not an issue then, right?

Also why would such a privileged class commit suicide at a much higher rate than the oppressed class (women)?

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Not as intelligent or willing to work as hard.


So you're against equality of outcome? Careful, you're breaking rank with feminists who demand 50/50 representation in government roles, STEM jobs, etc. (not in anything hard though, like garbage man, construction, etc.)

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Well fricking duh. Men inflict violence more. Usually on each other. Also, men wage war on each other across the planet mostly for no good reason. At the end of the day it's been a real good look for men.


Reel it back in, we're speaking about privilege. Considering all the negative statistics men are beating women in, it's hard to make a case for men being privileged, especially when you're having to reach back to women's suffrage to do so
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
10290 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:33 am to
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Says the guy with a bitter attitude towards female equality. You just put out a bunch of hypotheticals as if they were reality and use that to stem your anger. Maybe you are the one that lacks complete self-awareness


Ok, have fun with your troll.
Posted by jb4
Member since Apr 2013
13890 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:33 am to
Dating 101

Men chase women choose. Being a chaser can be unfair sometimes
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 8:35 am
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:34 am to
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Backwards as a species? As opposed to what? A cow that stands in his own shite 24 hours/day.


As opposed to what we can be. I don't know why that's hard for you to understand but when I look at third world countries with people running around with machine guns, American businessman fricking children and getting them to make cheap products, a world that refuses to share, rising ocean waters but yet no fresh water table because desalination is too expensive.....

Do you want me to keep going because I can keep going forever
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17409 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:37 am to
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single out ignorant college kids who are not confident on camera or yet have developed ideas knowing what they're talking about


Oh they have developed ideas... the ones spoon fed to them like the sheep most of them are. That beta in the video seems to have ideals doesn’t he?

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- put the burden of proof on everyone else


He quoted FBI stats. What did the sky screamer produce besides the unbelievable and unsubstantiated claim that the police and university allow proven rape to happen with no consequences?

The name of the skit literally says “change my mind”. How do you do that to someone able to rationally think with zero confirmed stats, zero proof, one sided stories, and self hating bs?

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- be disrupted without a permit and then act like you're having your rights ignored.


Uhh. It said in the video he had one.

But here is a thought. Why should he need one?
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28004 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:38 am to
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As opposed to what we can be. I don't know why that's hard for you to understand but when I look at third world countries with people running around with machine guns, American businessman fricking children and getting them to make cheap products, a world that refuses to share, rising ocean waters but yet no fresh water table because desalination is too expensive.....

Do you want me to keep going because I can keep going forever


Which is still infinitely better than any other species on this planet is doing. You can always point to perfection and show how far away we are from it. That's your error.

Rape actually occurs in other species, I've never seen them prosecute it.
This post was edited on 2/20/18 at 8:40 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134141 posts
Posted on 2/20/18 at 8:41 am to
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men wage war on each other across the planet mostly for no good reason.


Ok buddy
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