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re: Stephen Miller- administration considering suspending habeas corpus

Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:16 am to
Posted by beaux duke
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:16 am to
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Just became someone like Stephen Miller tells you it's legal doesn't make it so, and just because a court correctly rules an action is illegal doesn't mean they're acting politically, in violation of the Constitution, or are now somehow illegitimate.

this can't be stressed enough
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
878 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:17 am to
Hardly

Calm yours

Again for the intellect-impaired,

It is totally clear that immigration is being used for 'invasion.

It is time for the invasion to be ceased - and any judiciary involved to act, or not, accordingly because large swathes of the judiciary is also an invasion

perpetrated by the same forces

that also stole the 2020 election

among others
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 11:20 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465505 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:18 am to
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What are they going to argue in court? Please explain what argument an illegal alien has.

I mean we can go to basics: due process wasn't given, as they're entitled to Due Process via the 5th and 14th Amendments

Or, we can get into more of the details with the legislation that permits removal. You do understand that removal requires laws, and those laws have procedures that must be followed and limits of their authority, right? The illegal could argue either the government did not follow the law's procedures or acted outside of the statutory authority.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465505 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:19 am to
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It's inherently political.


Only to people who see this as a team scenario and perceive the ruling to go against their team/in group and/or go for their opponent/out group.
Posted by FriendofBaruch
Member since Mar 2025
878 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:21 am to
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Only to people who see this as a team scenario and perceive the ruling to go against their team/in group and/or go for their opponent/out group.

that is just too funny
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1549 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:25 am to
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this is an organized conspiratorial attempt by 4 countries to invade the US, let it go as Q level clownery
So just prove that this isn't a coordinated effort

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Stop getting side tracked so easily
You're talking to SFP. Sidetracking is SFPs game. Count the number of times I asked SFP to substantiate some stupid conclusion and it was delivered. NADA

Biggest fraud on this board
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465505 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:26 am to
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that is just too funny

...why?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465505 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:27 am to
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So just prove that this isn't a coordinated effort

Proving a negative? Real smart comment there

Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24087 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:28 am to
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Only to people who see this as a team scenario and perceive the ruling to go against their team/in group and/or go for their opponent/out group.


Again.

What alternate reality do you live in?

The venues are being chosen based on the politics of the judges.

People (you included) have argued the criticality of political outcomes relative to placement of legitimate jurists.

Seriously, meds, you dig yourself into these holes of irrationality because you have this debilitating desire for contrarianism, when paired with your insecurities, creates
Insanity.

It's bad.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:30 am to
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Only to people who see this as a team scenario and perceive the ruling to go against their team/in group and/or go for their opponent/out group.


Or you’re a dumbass and that team is America first while discount divorce lawyers make excuses for illegals who aren’t supposed to be here. They have no rights the second they break the law entering this country. They’re supposed to be apprehended and removed.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1549 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:30 am to
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Good idea. The best you've had in quite awhile
You didn't even respond to the rest of my reply to your idiotic rambling

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This is what that retarded little brain in that ideologue head of yours cannot understand, and why you read what I said without reading to comprehend but instead read to reply:

WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT PRESIDENT?
I answered this already genius

If the next dem president is going to deport illegals with impunity like Trump is doing, I will absolutely count that as a win and hail their success
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465505 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:31 am to
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The venues are being chosen based on the politics of the judges.

And we have a review/appeal process. Problem has already been solved.

It's also non-responsive to the point. In your fervor to try to latch onto something you don't understand you missed a crucial detail that invalidates your attempted point entirely.

I'll re-post the critical language so you don't have another melt

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Just became someone like Stephen Miller tells you it's legal doesn't make it so, and just because a court correctly rules an action is illegal doesn't mean they're acting politically, in violation of the Constitution, or are now somehow illegitimate.


I bolded the important language you overlooked to make it easier for you.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1549 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:32 am to
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You do realize that even Trump appointed judges have ruled against the Administration, right
Really? Why don't you present a list
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465505 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:34 am to
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while discount divorce lawyers make excuses for illegals who aren’t supposed to be here.

Something that isn't even happening

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They have no rights the second they break the law entering this country.

No matter how many times you repeat this doesn't change the fact that it's wrong, and our Supreme Court just confirmed that I am right 9-0.

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Noted leftist, Antonin Scalia

Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:34 am to
It’s funny he’s acknowledging judges are politically biased and this isn’t about the constitution. Just like SFP would represent someone who committed a crime and say his client is innocent. Just because he can argue that doesn’t mean it’s true.
Posted by somethingdifferent
Member since Aug 2024
1549 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:37 am to
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Trump’s use of the term “invasion” twists the AEA like a fricking pretzel
Absolutely not. There is no reason why "predatory incursion" could not include the past 3 years, unless your goal is political.

As for "Trump appointed judges," just because he appointed them doesn't mean they're not immune from corruption, malfeasance, judicial overreach or even impeachment.

quote:

If I thought their were millions of murderous Latino gang members wandering our streets, I’d have a different opinion
Why millions? Why did you arrive at that number instead of say, 1 who committed a crime? Seems awfully ad hoc

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There are some bad guys around, no doubt, but nothing like the administration would have you believe
Care to provide proof of that claim?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465505 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:38 am to
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Absolutely not. There is no reason why "predatory incursion" could not include the past 3 years, unless your goal is political.


If you ignore textualism and argue a "living document" analysis, sure.

But that process just argues for a Leviathan, ultimately, which is why it is the favored method of Leftists.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:40 am to
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No matter how many times you repeat this doesn't change the fact that it's wrong, and our Supreme Court just confirmed that I am right 9-0.


Are illegals supposed to be here? Yes or no?

No matter how much you argue they aren’t supposed to be here. They do not rate due process just because of their physical jurisdiction.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465505 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:44 am to
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Are illegals supposed to be here? Yes or no?


Bad question. I'm not sure what they're "supposed" to do.

Is their presence legal? No

Does that mean they lose all rights" No

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They do not rate due process just because of their physical jurisdiction.

But they do. Listen to the clip from Scalia. I embedded it to make it easier for you.
Posted by stampman
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
5125 posts
Posted on 5/10/25 at 11:47 am to
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It is not the role of the Judiciary to decide whether or not we are under invasion


The Judiciary is just a shell of what it is suspose to be. It's totally political now and the Constitution is just something that gets in their way. Look at most of the judges now who think they have more power than the President....there's no coming back from what this has become IMO.
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