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re: Stephen A Smith: MAGA is Turning on Trump!!

Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:02 pm to
Posted by tigersbh
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Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:02 pm to
Sorry you don’t want to make America great, again
Posted by FLTech
he/won
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:19 pm to
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"The only thing he's really done well is immigration."


Cool, so we agree he delivered the one thing that was a complete disaster under the previous administration—negative net migration for the first time in decades, millions of removals/self-deportations, border encounters at historic lows, and fentanyl trafficking down sharply. That's not "the only thing"—that's fixing the biggest open wound the country had. Everything else is "complete failure"? Bold claim from someone whose side left record crossings, record debt acceleration in prior years, and cities overwhelmed.

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"He'd give amnesty to corporations"


He's floated targeted guest worker ideas for farms/hotels to avoid crippling American agriculture after the crackdown—explicitly not amnesty, no path to citizenship for illegals already here, and requiring them to leave and re-enter legally. That's pragmatism, not betrayal. Compare to the open-border free-for-all before. If enforcing the law while keeping food on shelves is "amnesty," then words have no meaning.

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"Draining the swamp with his mouth only."


Actions: Massive ICE expansion, record deportations, executive orders closing loopholes, pressuring sanctuary cities, designating cartels as terrorists. Swamp creatures are screaming louder than ever—usually a good sign something's being drained.

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Increased government spending and debt?


Federal spending hit ~$7 trillion in FY2025 with deficits still in the $1.7-1.9T range this year—yes, it's high. But let's not pretend this started in 2025. The trajectory was already exploding pre-Trump 2.0 thanks to endless spending bills, COVID-era blowouts, and interest payments now topping $1T annually. Trump pushed border security funding and defense priorities; the debt bomb is structural (entitlements + interest). If you're suddenly fiscal hawk after years of "investments" that ballooned it, the timing is... convenient.

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"Starting multiple wars, increasing the police state/surveillance."


The Iran situation is a targeted campaign against a regime racing toward nukes and funding proxies that attacked us and our allies. Trump has repeatedly said core objectives are nearing completion and the U.S. involvement could wrap in weeks—not endless nation-building. Compare to the forever wars and "leading from behind" that preceded it. As for "spying on citizens"—got specific new surveillance programs under Trump you're referring to, or is this recycled rhetoric? Actual America First means not ignoring threats abroad while pretending domestic security isn't tied to border chaos and cartel fentanyl.

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"Attacking "most conservative" members while "sucking dick with Lindsey Graham"?


Trump endorses allies who deliver (Graham has backed key priorities). Criticizing holdouts who block agenda items isn't "attacking conservatives"—it's holding the party to results over purity tests. Neocons got us into quagmires; this admin's focus is different. Calling it "sucking dick" while complaining about "gaslighting" is peak projection.

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"The gaslighting complaints (BBB, spending cuts "never happened," Iran "just one place" now another war):


Early term had big border/security bills passed. Spending restraint takes Congress—Republicans don't have a magic wand. On Iran, the messaging has been consistent on ending the nuclear threat quickly, not occupation. Gas prices spiked? Yes, because of disruptions from the very conflict with a major oil player—short-term pain for long-term leverage against a regime that was destabilizing the region. "A few weeks" of higher prices doesn't "frick your entire world." Life under prior policies had persistent inflation, record crossings, and no accountability.

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The Kamala regret and "Republicans turn into Democrats" rant:


Classic. When your team loses, suddenly the other side was always fake. Reagan, Bush-era neocons, whatever—Trump ran explicitly against endless wars, open borders, and DC grift, and delivered the immigration reversal you yourself called his only success. "Neocons are losers" while defending voting third party because America First isn't pure enough? That's how you guarantee the left keeps winning while you sit on the sidelines feeling superior.

Trump isn't perfect, and debt/spending are fair gripes for any conservative. But calling everything "complete failure" while admitting immigration wins, ignoring the mess he inherited on the border, and pining for the days Republicans "pretended" to be conservative (while actual results on enforcement happened under Trump) makes this sound like ideological cosplay, not serious critique.

If the bar is "he didn't cut spending fast enough while fixing the border and confronting Iran," cool—list your realistic alternative that doesn't involve more open borders or ignoring adversaries. Otherwise, this reads like "Trump fricked me by not being libertarian Jesus in 15 months while reversing Biden-era damage." Curious how voting third party fixes any of it. Newsflash: It does NOT.

What's funny about your entire rant is that not a single thing you listed has actually destroyed or ruined your life — or your family's life — in any meaningful way.

You admit immigration is the one area where Trump has succeeded (record enforcement, negative net migration, sharp drops in fentanyl and illegal crossings). Then you complain about "increased gas prices for a few weeks" because of the Iran situation, some vague future amnesty idea he floated but never pursued, higher debt/spending that was already exploding before he took office, and the horror of him working with Lindsey Graham while criticizing holdouts who block results.

None of that sounds like your world has been "fricked." It sounds like short-term policy friction and ideological disappointment that Trump isn't some perfect libertarian who magically slashed spending in his first year while reversing years of damage on the border and confronting Iran.

You’re acting like these are apocalyptic personal catastrophes that justify voting third party again. Meanwhile, the actual chaos you’re defending against — open borders, unchecked spending under the prior administration, cities overwhelmed, record inflation eating paychecks — was hitting real families every day. But apparently that was fine, because at least "Republicans pretended to be conservative" back then?

Come on. If higher gas prices for a few weeks and "gaslighting" over future spending cuts are enough to make you declare Trump a complete failure and pine for the Kamala days, then yeah… your life must have been absolutely ruined.

The rest of us are over here watching actual results on the border while you throw a tantrum that America First isn’t pure enough for your standards. Embarrassing.

If these issues have genuinely wrecked your and your family’s daily life, list the specific, personal ways. Not vague policy gripes or "neocons are losers." Actual examples of how Trump’s actions have made your existence worse than what came before. I’m genuinely curious — because from where I’m sitting, it looks like you’re mostly mad he’s not letting the swamp win quietly anymore.
This post was edited on 4/4/26 at 8:29 pm
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/4/26 at 8:41 pm to
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And to be 100% honest, the tranny thing and open borders doesn't really affect me. I don't live in a shithole. If you are affected by those things, you should be looking at your local reps.

At least the democrats put the right letter next to their names, unlike the neocons who pretend to be republican and hijack the entire conservative movement so there is no representation.



Just as I suspected. You’re full of shite.

Posted by gon33
Member since Sep 2025
131 posts
Posted on 4/4/26 at 9:33 pm to
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Just as I suspected. You’re full of shite.


The only time republicans even pretend to be conservatives is when democrats are in office.
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
994 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 1:00 am to
And weird enough when maga is in office conservatives work against maga
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3478 posts
Posted on 4/5/26 at 8:19 am to
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His support for Trump hasn’t wavered since 2016.


WTF are you talking about. Mark levin was VERY vocal about voting for any of the R candidates over Trump in the 2016 primary. He’s not MAGA at all. He’s a neocon who loves Israel more than us and is trying to take over maga with the other frauds like Shapiro
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