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Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot....who??

Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:11 am
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:11 am
Literal obliviousness

Tldr: Leftists have committed horrible atrocities in recent history, ethnic and otherwise, far outnumbering anything the Nazis did, but we never hear anything about it.

Most of these leftists marching probably actually don't know the awful bloody history of their ideology.

Either way, this idea they have that violence is permissible/encouraged against political opponents (see the massive support for the attack on Richard Spencer) is a very bad sign for everyone.

If you read to the end of the linked blog, you may, like me, learn of the 1804 Haiti massacre, which is a quite interesting bit of pre-Civil War history of which the public school system neglected to inform me.

Also, this is the real reason leftists want to limit legal civilian ownership of firearms.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
89297 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:19 am to
kim Jong Il and his daddy kim il sung

there is a list i had bookmarked

i think around 7 of the top 10 killers were commies or socialist totalitarians or had those leanings.

remember hitler was a NATIONAL SOCIALIST
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 9:45 am
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:30 am to
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remember hitler was a NATIONAL SOCIALIST

I think we still have to say he was on the "right", though.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:34 am to
The death of Castro was a real eye opener. Everyone on the left acted as if a great man had died. To me, that represented an irreconcilable different between the political factions.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:40 am to
TRUMP!
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
89297 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:42 am to
quote:

I think we still have to say he was on the "right", though.


not really.

a little secret about the nazi party

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According to a popular misconception, the Nazis must have been on the political right because they persecuted communists and fought a war with the communists in Russia. This specious logic has gone largely unchallenged because it serves as useful propaganda for the left, which needs ``right-wing'' atrocities to divert attention from the horrific communist atrocities of the past century. Hence, communist atrocities have received much less publicity than Nazi war crimes, even though they were greater in magnitude by any objective measure. R. J. Rummel of the University of Hawaii documents in his book Death by Government that the two most murderous regimes of the past century were both communist: communists in the Soviet Union murdered 62 million of their own citizens, and Chinese communists killed 35 million Chinese citizens. The Nazi socialists come in third, having murdered 21 million Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians and others. Additional purges occurred in smaller communist hellholes such as Cambodia, Vietnam, North Korea, Ethiopia, and Cuba, of course. Communism does more than imprison and impoverish nations: it kills wholesale. And so did ``national socialism'' during the Nazi reign of terror.



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But the history of the past century has been grossly distorted by the predominantly left-wing media and academic elite. The Nazis have been universally condemned -- as they obviously should be -- but they have also been repositioned clear across the political spectrum and propped up as false representatives of the far right -- even though Hitler railed frantically against capitalism in his infamous demagogic speeches. At the same time, heinous crimes of larger magnitude by communist regimes have been ignored or downplayed, and the general public is largely unaware of them. Hence, communism is still widely regarded as a fundamentally good idea that has just not yet been properly ``implemented.'' Santayana said, ``Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.'' God help us if we forget the horrors of communism and get the historical lessons of Nazism backwards.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 9:45 am
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 9:56 am to
quote:

The death of Castro was a real eye opener. Everyone on the left acted as if a great man had died. To me, that represented an irreconcilable different between the political factions.


Yep.

And they would openly cheer if Trump were assassinated.
Would we have cheered the same for Obamas death? I seriously don't believe we would have, at all.
Posted by Haydo
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 11:24 am to
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Pol Pot


Just spent some time in Cambodia in December and went to the Killing Fields outside of Pnom Penh. Hard to believe that something like that happened just 40 years ago. Had me wondering where that country would be if not for the genocide of millions of strictly only "educated" peoples. You'd be amazed at how many people don't even realize this happened.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:38 pm to
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You'd be amazed at how many people don't even realize this happened.


Indoctrination works
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49105 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:42 pm to
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I think we still have to say he was on the "right", though.


The far right and the far left are basically the same thing. The entire straight-lined left/right paradigm is ineffective because in actuality, it's more like a horseshoe.
Posted by MrCarton
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Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:43 pm to
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I think we still have to say he was on the "right", though.


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Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:44 pm to
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Leftists have committed horrible atrocities in recent history, ethnic and otherwise, far outnumbering anything the Nazis did, but we never hear anything about it.
"We" being who? People who slept through every single history class in their lifetimes?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49105 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 12:45 pm to
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You'd be amazed at how many people don't even realize this happened.


Just look at China's history. In 1976, when Mao finally died, the country was basically third world. Just two decades later, Xioaping turned it into the second largest economy in the world by getting rid of command system economics.
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