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re: Southern poverty law center indicted by grand jury. Laundered $ to white supremacy groups

Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:38 pm to
Kash is on the right



Kash is on the left.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:42 pm to
They were paying them, half of what the entire organization took in, they were funding the organizations endeavors

You struggle with reality
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:46 pm to
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Will the Dems now actually admit that there were "good people on both sides"?




There were certainly Democrats on "both sides," that much is now clear. I guess, from that perspective, they may have been right all along.
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:51 pm to
other 90 telling everyone how brilliant he is?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:51 pm to
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And there are millions more DEMs. Populations aren't stagnant.


It is unlikely 100% of these are legal voters.

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Even in a worst case scenario, Kamala got over 58%


This was the best case scenario for Dems. Minority female from California.

quote:

It's not possible for a Republican to win CA, and it was not possible in 2024.

So I ask again, all Trump voters in CA voted for Kamala?


Your premise is false. It is absolutely possible for a Republican to win CA. In fact, as has already been pointed out to you, that state has even voted to adopt a mechanism that would simply give a Republican all of their electoral college votes if he/she were to win the national popular vote.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:13 pm to
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They were paying them, half of what the entire organization took in, they were funding the organizations endeavors


Where is your evidence of this?

The indictment doesn't allege this.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:13 pm to
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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:13 pm to
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This was the best case scenario for Dems.


2024?

Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
11299 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:17 pm to
Endless FRAU(D)
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
63219 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:20 pm to
I pay a guy

He paints my house


But I didn’t pay him yo paint my house?

He just painted my house for free?

And I just gave him money because I just wanted to hand out money?

No correlation whatsoever?



You’ve lost your grip on reality




Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:25 pm to
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I pay a guy

He paints my house


But I didn’t pay him yo paint my house?

He just painted my house for free?

And I just gave him money because I just wanted to hand out money?

No correlation whatsoever?


What? That's not a good analogy at all.

Especially when we have real corollaries like criminal prosecutions that use snitches. You think when the FBI paid mob informants, that money circulated back into rotation of the family?

The SPLC didn't contract with the organizations directly. It kills your whole analogy, just like how the FBI didn't contract with the mob familes directly.


*ETA: or we can use corporate espionage. You think when one corporation pays the employee of a rival for trade secrets, that employee then goes and includes the payment in the rival company's revenue?
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 1:28 pm
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40429 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:30 pm to
These are the white sups Joe Biden was talking about.

They are paid opposition-boogie men.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Member since Jan 2012
63219 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:51 pm to
You can’t help yourself, you reach for the most unbelievable fantasy and cling to it and pretend the fantasy is a possible reality
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 1:53 pm to
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you reach for the most unbelievable fantasy and cling to it and pretend the fantasy is a possible reality


What?

I'm arguing they paid snitches for information, which is what the indictment says.

You're arguing, with no evidence, this money went to the groups and did all of this other stuff. THAT is fantasy (at this point).
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
11299 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:00 pm to
they are not the police they don't get to give money illegally to people for information
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
63219 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:03 pm to
From the indictment

"Manufacturing" Extremism: Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche stated that rather than dismantling these groups, the SPLC "manufactured" extremism by paying sources who allegedly stoked racial hatred or participated in extremist events.


Unite the Right Involvement: One informant was allegedly paid over $270,000 and helped coordinate transportation for the 2017 "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville while under SPLC supervision.


Covert Operations: The SPLC reportedly used fictitious entities and code names (referred to as "the Fs") to process these payments
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:04 pm to
If all you have, over a decade of allegations, is a snitch driving a few people to Unite the Right, your argument is weak.
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 2:04 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41331 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:06 pm to
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You’ve lost your grip on reality


He doesn’t live in reality. He lives in a bubble and talks to other liberals who thinks it’s cool and “intellectual” to discuss racism.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477231 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:06 pm to
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He lives in a bubble and talks to other liberals who thinks it’s cool and “intellectual” to discuss racism.

What a weird way to describe Tigerdroppings, because I don't discuss anything related to racism anywhere else
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
63219 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 2:09 pm to
Well it’s a criminal organization

Summary of Charges

The 11-count indictment includes the following specific federal charges:

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Wire Fraud (6 counts): Alleging the SPLC used electronic communications to carry out a scheme to defraud donors.
False Statements to a Bank (4 counts): Alleging the organization provided misleading information to a federally insured bank.
Conspiracy to Commit Money Laundering (1 count): Alleging a coordinated effort to disguise the source and ownership of illegally obtained funds.
Key Allegations
Funding Extremists: Prosecutors allege the SPLC secretly funneled over $3 million in donations to individuals associated with groups like the KKK and the National Socialist Movement between 2014 and 2023.
Manufacturing Extremism: Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche accused the SPLC of creating the extremism they oppose by paying sources to incite racial tension.
Deceptive Practices: The indictment states the SPLC used shell companies and fake entities to disguise payments to informants, often referred to as "field sources".
Unite the Right Involvement: An informant, paid over $270,000, was reportedly a leader in the 2017 Charlottesville "Unite the Right" rally.
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