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So what happens when government decides to charge for bandwidth?

Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:03 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:03 pm
People are putting up a stink about Verizon or At&T charging for different bandwidths. Their solution is for the government to regulate bandwidth like a utility.

What happens when the government does what you are trying to keep Verizon from doing?
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:04 pm to
Not potentially...they are currently chsrging for diff bandwidths.
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:06 pm to
That would be against the law.

Internet access should be ruled a human right like has been done in Estonia.

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Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:06 pm to
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Not potentially...they are currently chsrging for diff bandwidths.



Ok, how does that change the question?
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:07 pm to
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ruled a human right


































This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:08 pm to
Because you act like there are not already different rates for internet speeds
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 5:09 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:11 pm to
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Because you act like there are not already different rates for internet speeds



Why shouldn't there be?

If I suck down electricity I pay more per kwh.

If I use a shite ton of water, I pay more per gallon. Why is internet different?
Posted by Ingloriousbastard
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:11 pm to
Both companies already charge more for greater bandwidth. Actually, every traditional ISP does. I've never heard of people having a problem with this.

I think what you are referring to is people wanting to be charged by the MB of data based on usage instead of a fixed amount per month...

Your post is confusing and I'm not sure what you're really arguing.
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:12 pm to
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Because you act like there are not already different rates for internet speeds



Ok, edited "potentially" out. You can quit dodging the question now.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:12 pm to
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Why shouldn't there be?

Wait. Did someone argue that there shouldn't be?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:12 pm to
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People are putting up a stink about Verizon or At&T potentially charging for different bandwidths


That already happens

It’s called the speed you pay for. I thought you said you worked with tech companies

They want to prioritize traffic and block ports unless you pay extra
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:12 pm to
The government isn't a ISP.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:13 pm to
I don't care about elasticity based on volume used, etc...We already have that today. I care about some 0s and 1s costing more than other 0s and 1s.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:15 pm to
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care about some 0s and 1s costing more than other 0s and 1s.


Why shouldnt they? Your cable channel does it.
Posted by SoulGlo
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:15 pm to
The question is simple…

What happens when GOVERNMENT does what you are mad at ISPs for doing?

Don't pretend it won't happen.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:15 pm to
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Why shouldnt they? Your cable channel does i


Bc traffic is traffic
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:17 pm to
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Why shouldnt they? Your cable channel does it.
Apples and oranges. You aren't subscribing to your ISP for content. NN prevents the ISP from favoring some third party content over others. At the physical layer it makes no difference whatsoever...
Posted by stat19
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:18 pm to
They can thank George Soros for showing them the way.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:20 pm to
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What happens when GOVERNMENT does what you are mad at ISPs for doing?
Sounds like you are reaching for some specific response or "gotcha!". I stated my position clearly and without any need to reach for scary hypotheticals. I support NN because I believe the world is worse if ISPs are allowed to favor some zeros and ones over others...
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260329 posts
Posted on 11/22/17 at 5:22 pm to
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Apples and oranges. You aren't subscribing to your ISP for content


You could, and it could be easily justified.

However its a bad business model for the industry and competitors would put them under.
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