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So Paul Ryan Made Some Comments about "Inner City Culture" Today

Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:14 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:14 pm
Huffpo Article

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"We have got this tailspin of culture, in our inner cities in particular, of men not working and just generations of men not even thinking about working or learning the value and the culture of work," the Wisconsin Republican said on Bill Bennett's "Morning in America" radio show. "There is a real culture problem here that has to be dealt with."


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Ryan's comment was prompted by a question from Bennett about the "fatherless problem" and young people needing to see their parents working to understand the value of work. Ryan went on to say people should get involved in inner cities.

"If you're driving from the suburb to the sports arena downtown by these blighted neighborhoods, you can't just say, 'I'm paying my taxes, government's got to fix that.' You need to get involved," Ryan said. "You need to get involved yourself, whether through a good mentor program, or some religious charity, whatever it is to make a difference. And that's how we help resuscitate our culture."


Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:18 pm to
He makes a point, but Paul Ryan is dead to me
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:18 pm to
Oh man, this should be fun to watch

In all seriousness, the second part of the quote is right on. I know where I live the Big Buddy program and another similar local program makes a huge difference in the lives of a lot of these kids. It's why I (semi) applaud Obama's latest "Brother's Keeper' program, but with the caveat that I really hope the money is traced and actually used on the kids and not slipped through and wasted.

TL;DR: Government doesn't fix things, it all starts at the local level. Get involved.
This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:19 pm to
Jesus, at most of the Huffpo comments.
Posted by Fast_Eddie
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:19 pm to
Ryan has a good point. The poor ghetto folks aren't going to wake up one day and better themselves. They will need a push of some sort. I think we simply need to cut the free-bees. When they start dying in the street, they'll think," hmmm, maybe I need to try this work thing out."
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:20 pm to
quote:

He makes a point, but Paul Ryan is dead to me
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:21 pm to
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Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) called Ryan's remark "deeply offensive."

"My colleague Congressman Ryan's comments about 'inner city' poverty are a thinly veiled racial attack and cannot be tolerated," Lee said in an email to reporters. "Let's be clear, when Mr. Ryan says 'inner city,' when he says 'culture,' these are simply code words for what he really means: 'black.'"


Oh no, the dreaded CODE WORDS
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

He makes a point,

yeah but he probably went too far

if we can't talk about the culture of the poor located in inner cities, then an actual discussion on a lot of things related to poverty, race, and entitlement programs cannot be had

his wording was very poor. VERY poor. we can't really have a discussion starting it off by saying "they don't want to work", either
Posted by weedGOKU666
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

When they start dying in the street, they'll think," hmmm, maybe I need to try this work thing out."


lol
Posted by Eighteen
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

his wording was very poor. VERY poor. we can't really have a discussion starting it off by saying "they don't want to work", either



completely agree on this point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:25 pm to
if he had just stuck to a discussion about the issues with having a father around, i wonder what the responses would be

that is a statistical, proven epidemic in that community
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

"they don't want to work",


Do you think they do?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

his wording was very poor. VERY poor. we can't really have a discussion starting it off by saying "they don't want to work", either
This.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

his wording was very poor. VERY poor. we can't really have a discussion starting it off by saying "they don't want to work", either


Maybe it's semantics, but I didn't exactly read that as him speaking as to "want."
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

Jesus, at most of the Huffpo comments.


Allowing comments on news feeds is destroying my faith in humanity.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

Do you think they do?
Does an alcoholic want to be sober?

Dependency is addictive.

Breaking the addiction requires opportunity.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:28 pm to
Paul Ryan Hates Black People
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:30 pm to
There is opportunity out there. Some of these folks aren't even looking at it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

"they don't want to work",


Do you think they do?


It's going to take some time to break the cycle that we're currently in, but I believe most want to work.

Unfortunately too many found work in the underground economy, served jail time and aren't very employable.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/12/14 at 5:36 pm to
I agree we have a culture problem in our inner city, not sure I agree its about employment. I think its about the acceptance of single parent homes.

This post was edited on 3/12/14 at 5:37 pm
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