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re: So many of you claim to be smart but deny climate change
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:19 pm to Skyler97
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:19 pm to Skyler97
What percent of global warming is attributed to normal fluctuations from the planet and what percent from humans? After you answer that, what do we need to do to stop that small percentage?
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Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:19 pm to Skyler97
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What is happening to my country
Lots of folks have realized that if they don't stand up to a lot of the stupid bullshite put out by the same kind of academia that is producing an entire generation of worthless social justice warriors, what is left after the devastation, famine and wars will probably not be worth having, or be fit to be left to their children.
The Great Lakes were formed by glaciers. Unless you think it was those damned 12,000BC Ford Model A's that caused them to melt, then you're well aware that climate change has, and will continue to happen.
What is legitimately worrisome is the number of you that claim to be smart, but assert that the climate change can only be anthropogenic, and that the solution to it is found in government. The same governments that have given us world war, famines killing hundreds of thousands, the inability to eradicate curable diseases, even though the cure exists, global debt and deficit, socialist/communist genocides to the tune of millions of people, all the way down to tens of thousands of American veterans dying, waiting on government healthcare. Yep, they can't handle any of that shite properly, but they'll take care of global warming if we just submit to enough taxes and regulation.
Grow up, dumbass.
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:20 pm to DawgsLife
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Did he say he would provide them, or that he would be for them?
Well lets look at the steps here.
1. Having been a theory for way longer than you may realize, most of the science does in fact point to that we, as humans are warming the planet faster than it has in previous cycles.
2. Inform the public unfortunately getting hijacked by that moron al gore so it turned political.
3. Since its now a political issue instead of human issue, people then google stuff like "how we know global warming is a hoax" then spread it around like a virus diluting the real issues. Ending in people just continuing to not recycle or give a shite about the environment.
4. When no one will even listen to what the scientists say, they implement a tax on everyone because some think its a hoax and refuse to lessen their emissions on their own.
5. KCT and the like now scream why it has to affect his money because now he thinks its a money grab to lessen emissions, and asks what another way we can do this without affecting money would be?
6. Go back and redo 3 without being politicized, but since its always win win win with everyone, we're gonna do what we can to prove that al gore wasn't right.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:21 pm to CrazyCow202
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Lol Al Gore isn't a billionaire
Correct. he is only worth over $200 Million. That makes him a 1%, and we all know that makes him evil.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:21 pm to bonhoeffer45
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This is a country thats heritage involves witch burning, evolution denial, and a movement against vaccines.
Maybe people are skeptical because of the bullshite predictions of the past 40 years...
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In January 1970, Life reported, “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support…the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half….”
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Harrison Brown, a scientist at the National Academy of Sciences, published a chart in Scientific American that looked at metal reserves and estimated the humanity would totally run out of copper shortly after 2000. Lead, zinc, tin, gold, and silver would be gone before 1990.
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Harvard biologist George Wald estimated that “civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.”
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“We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation,” wrote Washington University biologist Barry Commoner in the Earth Day issue of the scholarly journal Environment.
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“Most of the people who are going to die in the greatest cataclysm in the history of man have already been born,” wrote Paul Ehrlich in a 1969 essay titled “Eco-Catastrophe! “By…[1975] some experts feel that food shortages will have escalated the present level of world hunger and starvation into famines of unbelievable proportions. Other experts, more optimistic, think the ultimate food-population collision will not occur until the decade of the 1980s.”
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Kenneth Watt warned about a pending Ice Age in a speech. “The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years,” he declared. “If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.”
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The day after the first Earth Day, the New York Times editorial page warned, “Man must stop pollution and conserve his resources, not merely to enhance existence but to save the race from intolerable deterioration and possible extinction.”
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:22 pm to Skyler97
the majority of tigerdroppings PT posters:
This post was edited on 6/1/17 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:23 pm to Skyler97
So much dumb in such a small statement
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:24 pm to olddawg26
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Did he say he would provide them, or that he would be for them?
I have no idea what your post has to do with my question.
Someone (I don't think it was you) said that KCT had said in another thread, that he would be for reasonable steps to take for Global Warming. That person then said they have not seen his reasonable steps and wanted to see them.
I merely pointed out that he never said he would provide the reasonable steps....he said he would be FOR reasonable steps.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:25 pm to texag7
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I don't see it happening in my lifetime
Its not always about YOU and your lifetime. Maybe it will maybe it wont. Plenty of people that the wright brothers stood on the shoulders of attempted flight well before they got it right. Your ancestors were probably the ones standing there saying "Why should i give a shite about flying aint gonna happen in my lifetime!111!!!"
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:26 pm to Skyler97
This thread should be entertaining... how many pages?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:26 pm to Skyler97
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So many of you claim to be smart but deny climate change
No one denies climate change except the most retarded segment of the population.
What we debate over is whether or not humans can even affect or Change the entire climate with what we currently do.
The people who push that greener technology will stop or reverse climate change and our current path will speed it up are in essence arguing that we have the power to teraform climate of the entire planet
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:27 pm to DawgsLife
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I have no idea what your post has to do with my question.
I was kinda alluding to the fact that merely informing people went off the rails due to politics for some reason, the best way I know for people to immediately listen is to mess with their money, otherwise it seems they dont give a shite if it doesn't affect them within a lifetime.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:27 pm to troyt37
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troyt37
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:28 pm to AggieDub14
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Historically the ice shelf has remained attached. It's at a high risk of breaking off. This crack expanding is evidence of that.
By "historically" I assume you mean "in recorded history". How do you know what size cracks occurred in the ice shelf during prehistoric times?
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There is no normal rate of giant ice shelfs breaking off.
Since there is no normal rate of giant ice shelves breaking off then how do you know the rate this particular ice shelf is breaking off is not normal?
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:29 pm to Kjun Tiger
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Maybe people are skeptical because of the bullshite predictions of the past 40 years...
But none of them have been able to refute the current consensus through the time tested empirical process backed by peer review.
But nice deflection.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:29 pm to Skyler97
If Trump says it's bad, then it must be true. He put down windmills and the Trumpkins circle jerked over it.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:29 pm to Skyler97
quote:Parroting what others tell you to believe isn't "smart". Most that believe in climate change do just that... believe. Based on faith rather than any basic knowledge of thermodynamics and heat transfer.
So many of you claim to be smart but deny climate change
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:30 pm to olddawg26
Because I actually have a grasp on economics and how the world economy works.
You can't throw in carbon emission restrictions without having other options already available. If you do you disrupt the costs of farming, shipping, construction, infrastructure, and dozens of other things that cannot rely on electric motors currently.
Get off the NYT and Elon Musk subreddit and actually educate yourself on how the world works.
You can't throw in carbon emission restrictions without having other options already available. If you do you disrupt the costs of farming, shipping, construction, infrastructure, and dozens of other things that cannot rely on electric motors currently.
Get off the NYT and Elon Musk subreddit and actually educate yourself on how the world works.
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:30 pm to bonhoeffer45
quote:Just as no one has been able to refute the consensus of the catholic preisthood that god is real. Must therefore be true...
But none of them have been able to refute the current consensus through the time tested empirical process backed by peer review
Posted on 6/1/17 at 2:32 pm to Taxing Authority
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Just as no one has been able to refute the consensus of the catholic preisthood that god is real. Must therefore be true...
One is falsifiable, the other is not.
Science 101. Learned that in 3rd grade.
Might want to refrain from lecturing people when you gaffed up something that simple.
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