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re: So, how well is Trump's 2nd term going so far?

Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:41 pm to
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A shite show for the most part


haha. predictable
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:43 pm to
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Who did you vote for?

Trump

But I don't think his second term has been a raging success

I know a lot of people here define success as owning the libs. But I want to see real results. It's looking like a bunch of hot air so far.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:44 pm to
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haha. predictable

Feel free to list all of the successes of his term so far
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:54 pm to
I wouldn’t grade him less than a B because of the simple fact that the alternative would have been disastrous for this country.

And before all the non-Trump “conservative” candidate supporters argue that their candidate would have done better, the only real choice in the past election was “Trump” or “Cumula”.

And The fact Trump won despite all the political forces aligned against him is still amazing
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:55 pm to
Well yeah once Trump secured the nomination those were the only 2 real choices

And I agree that Harris would have been worse. The border would still be overwhelmed if nothing else.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:57 pm to
And even though I’m not a proponent of massive federal government spending, again the alternative would have been much worse
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 8:58 pm to
I don't think the spending thing was going to be fixed by either party

Trump ran on it but anyone that wasn't completely naive knew we would still be running huge deficits

The second half of the Obama years and Trump 1.0 were both completely irresponsible with deficit spending. It's folly to run massive deficits in a time of economic prosperity. They both used deficit spending to prop up the economy as if we were in some crisis mode.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:01 pm to
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Answer.."By May 1, 2025, the White House stated that deportations had exceeded 142,000"..

If Trump continues to deport at his current rate, by the time he leaves office, he would've deported no more than 1.5 million people.

I think fewer people coming in is the much more important part of the equation with regards to immigration and we're winning that battle now.

We should be selective about the deportation process and crack down on employers that hire illegals. As in make the penalties so Draconian that it's putting these people out of business.
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:04 pm to
Going great so far!! Very pleased.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:05 pm to
Obviously we now have a massive budget/deficit problem that has been created over decades. There are too many inside & outside the DC swamp who will fight tooth and nail for their piece of the pie. Unfortunately even Trump will not fix this issue- it’s past the point of saving. The best we could’ve hoped for was to stall the oncoming slide over the cliff as much as possible
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:06 pm to
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I know a lot of people here define success as owning the libs

if by "a lot" you mean everyone, then yeah, i agree
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:06 pm to
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Unfortunately even Trump will not fix this issue-

I think it's a bit silly to ever think it was part of his plan at this point

Any reasonable person would conclude that it's just campaign rhetoric and nothing was ever going to be done about it.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:07 pm to
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if by "a lot" you mean everyone, then yeah, i agree

There seem to be a few rational people here for sure

But the hive mind is just a bunch of childish misanthropes that have no idea what's going on
Posted by Proximo
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:07 pm to
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The recovery is obviously a good thing but all major markets are still lower than they were at inauguration. Some are close to all the way back but no gains yet.

You’re a fricking idiot lol. The gains came from
Election Day forward, not Inauguration Day

Holy shite
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:09 pm to
And the losses came when Trump started his trade war

And they've recovered when he has relaxed his tariffs...i.e. got bitch slapped by bond investors
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:10 pm to
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There seem to be a few rational people here for sure

key word there is "few".... very few...

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But the hive mind is just a bunch of childish misanthropes that have no idea what's going on

agreed
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:16 pm to
Well most on the right are optimists and most on the left are nuts. So again, there were realistically only 2 choices.

I find it interesting how many on both sides of the aisle were screaming when DOGE was headline news (and even still) about the severe damage the cuts were going to create. Then turn around and argue that the planned cuts were insignificant.
Posted by Powerman
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:21 pm to
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Well most on the right are optimists

The subset of the right that is MAGA are certainly not optimists

They're doomsayers at best
Posted by soonerinlOUisiana
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:23 pm to
Beaners being deported, figs are being banished from normal society, successful so far. Best is yet to come.
Posted by prouddawg
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:23 pm to
A+ : Border
A : Fixing the military including but not limited to the eradication of the woke and evil DEI horse crap. Kicking the nut job trannies out, too.

Providing strong national security is 75% of what I look for out of a president so I’m pleased.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 9:29 pm
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