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re: So how do we fix the media problem?
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:34 am to crossfire
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:34 am to crossfire
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They just make up lies and use "anonymous" sources for fake stories.
This has to stop but how do we hold them accountable?
Do Republicans start to fight back and just make up shite too?
I'm sick of the fake news and I used to hate it when Trump constantly used that phrase. Now I completely understand and agree 100%. I will never support anything democrat related again.
The funny thing here is you think fake News is a partisan venture
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:38 am to David_DJS
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So a silly science experiment by Glenn Beck is the equivalent of the Russian collusion hoax or completely making up a racist/hate story?
Do you have an example of a made-up story of the magnitude of either of my examples that was pushed by Fox for an extended period did time?
Were you not around when Obama was President? For fricks sake dude.
The biggest problem here is the massive amounts of people that actually think they are getting legitimate information from the heinously bias new organization of their choice
Posted on 6/30/20 at 5:18 am to Lsudx256
quote:Do you want state run media? Because this is how you get state run media comrade. Seriously, this sounds like a reasonable idea, but just imagine the process for selecting the members of this committee? Unbiased? That's unpossible. Everyone has an agenda. Everyone.
There has to be an unbiased oversight committee in media
Posted on 6/30/20 at 5:23 am to crossfire
I would start the fix where I could.
NPR:
Revamp the entire network and turn it into a non-biased news source. I would make every employee/broadcaster sign an oath of ethics and hold them to it.
This could be done pretty easily.
NPR:
Revamp the entire network and turn it into a non-biased news source. I would make every employee/broadcaster sign an oath of ethics and hold them to it.
This could be done pretty easily.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 5:23 am to Powerman
quote:Trump is crying wolf?
Of course. And Trump playing the boy that cried wolf doesn't help matters either.
After the last 4 years and you say something that incredibly idiotic? Wow.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 5:24 am to Froman
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Fox News is the most egregious offender of fake news,
You have to be a moron to believe this. Fox leans slightly right with its news coverage. The other outlets lean far left. Not only is it obvious, there are studies that demonstrate this quite well.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 5:25 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 5:33 am to crossfire
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They just make up lies and use "anonymous" sources for fake stories.
This has to stop but how do we hold them accountable?
Do Republicans start to fight back and just make up shite too?
I'm sick of the fake news and I used to hate it when Trump constantly used that phrase. Now I completely understand and agree 100%. I will never support anything democrat related again
The Republican party as a whole are nothing but spineless cowards caring only for their personal gain. You can forget about them fighting any fire with fire (other than Trump of course).
Best thing you can do as an individual is completely ignore anything coming out of MSM. This is not going to stop...will only get worse.
Its even awful on local levels. I try and watch the evening news for my local weather forecast but I feel like to do so if you aren't a limp wristed Bernie Sanders for life supporter you can't even do that without the severe alienating feeling.
Nobody is going to hold media accountable in this microwave society. If they screw something up badly or are caught in a major lie it's old news by the next day. Doesn't matter. They know their viewers aren't going anywhere.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 5:36 am to crossfire
Take a long look at who and what owns these main media outlets. Even look at what owns your local news. Chances are it's a giant, international corporate behemoth of one sort or another.
Trump gets hysteria no other President has because of things like playing tough with China on trade or re-negotiating trade deals. The only way conservatives get anything resembling a "fair" press is by electing globalist shills like Mitt Romney. Big corp wants big government and cheap third world labor...and they have the money to buy the microphone.
Trump gets hysteria no other President has because of things like playing tough with China on trade or re-negotiating trade deals. The only way conservatives get anything resembling a "fair" press is by electing globalist shills like Mitt Romney. Big corp wants big government and cheap third world labor...and they have the money to buy the microphone.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 5:42 am to crossfire
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Posted on 6/30/20 at 5:43 am to Stacker
A couple of ideas:
1) Make it easier to hold the media accountable in court
2) Have a new, elected state government official responsible for media accountability with the ability to sue, shut down a news outlet, or reclassify it as a propaganda outlet.
The best way would be for enough people to reject a news source to the point where it goes out of business, but we're beyond that possibility now.
1) Make it easier to hold the media accountable in court
2) Have a new, elected state government official responsible for media accountability with the ability to sue, shut down a news outlet, or reclassify it as a propaganda outlet.
The best way would be for enough people to reject a news source to the point where it goes out of business, but we're beyond that possibility now.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 5:45 am to crossfire
I don’t have an answer. I know that part of the problem is as a country we have a disdain for attacking reporters because in radical countries they seize the media and the state makes them do their bidding. Here ours run wild and mainly always have.
But for awhile now this protection has been abused by mostly the left but the right is guilty as well. How do you rein in the media without looking like a dictator is the problem. The best Trump can do is call them out on it and hope the general population can catch onto it themselves.
But for awhile now this protection has been abused by mostly the left but the right is guilty as well. How do you rein in the media without looking like a dictator is the problem. The best Trump can do is call them out on it and hope the general population can catch onto it themselves.
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 5:46 am
Posted on 6/30/20 at 5:48 am to Froman
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Fox News is the most egregious offender of fake news, and OANN is just a propaganda network for the president, so to answer your question, we’re already there.
I think we found an indoctrinated sheep.
You have to be able to decern what is actual news , the facts somewhere in the the political spin and commentary...
Fox has been deteriorating into more like a CNN...OAN?...I haven't watched in a while
If you can't filter the news media yourself then you will be "one of them"
Start with..."what really happened?"...you must assume the news of the day today regardless of channel is "developing" and not complete or conclusive.
The trick is understanding when the narrative leaves knows facts...and common sense
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:01 am to Mickey Goldmill
Do you actually think one of those huffpost "stories" equates to Russia collusion? Santa Claus is white? Poor people have refrigerators? Hard hitting stuff.
Most of them weren't even reported as news.
Come on, now. Even you aren't that big a fraud.
Most of them weren't even reported as news.
Come on, now. Even you aren't that big a fraud.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:06 am to crossfire
The best way would be to stop paying them any attention at all but for some reason people on right just can't seem to bring themselves to do that.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:11 am to crossfire
We need to start applying some FCC and FEC standards to them
FEC should declare them a mouthpiece for the DEMOCRAT party - and therefore their on-air value should be declared an in-kind donation to the DEM party. And comply with all $$$ limitations.
FCC should require that anytime a broadcast that was based on "sources say" proved to be FALSE that they IDENTIFY the 'source.' If they refuse they should be sued for libel.
They should be required to broadcast RETRACTIONs of any false broadcast in the same timeframe and durations as the original broadcast - and any FOLLOWUP airtime devoted to the discussion of the false information should be required to provide equal airtime to a REBUTTAL of the false information by the aggrieved party.
If a "leak" revealed classified information the leaker must be identified, or the broadcaster be held to whatever criminal liabilities as the law allows for the leaker.
For continued lop-sided 'new coverage' the broadcast should be required to declare "This segment is/was brought to you by the DEMOCRAT party."
FEC should declare them a mouthpiece for the DEMOCRAT party - and therefore their on-air value should be declared an in-kind donation to the DEM party. And comply with all $$$ limitations.
FCC should require that anytime a broadcast that was based on "sources say" proved to be FALSE that they IDENTIFY the 'source.' If they refuse they should be sued for libel.
They should be required to broadcast RETRACTIONs of any false broadcast in the same timeframe and durations as the original broadcast - and any FOLLOWUP airtime devoted to the discussion of the false information should be required to provide equal airtime to a REBUTTAL of the false information by the aggrieved party.
If a "leak" revealed classified information the leaker must be identified, or the broadcaster be held to whatever criminal liabilities as the law allows for the leaker.
For continued lop-sided 'new coverage' the broadcast should be required to declare "This segment is/was brought to you by the DEMOCRAT party."
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:20 am to Froman
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Fox News is the most egregious offender of fake news
Oh good gawd.
FNC is slightly 52/48 on the conservative side of reporting the 'news'
The other alphabet networks are at least 90/10 attacks on conservative principles
Find me ONE biased "news" story - just one.
For fellow travelers like you, any TRUTH that doesn't support you agenda represents a "unfair" ATTACK.
you are worthless
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:24 am to crossfire
Only thing to do is rough up a few of these reporters....bring in some Mob Rules and let them know if it doesnt stop we dont either
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:25 am to Mickey Goldmill
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pushing some obviously fake stories
Really....that's all you got. Those were just anchors doing stupid things. We could go back-and-forth all week on those type examples from every network.
Now, provide something equivalent to lying to America for three years that the Trump Administration colluded with Russia and how the Democrat "media" can/has/does ignore legitimate news for months-upon-months (e.g., Obama's apparently crooked DOJ and their version of Watergate).
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:38 am to Froman
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Fox News is the most egregious offender of fake news, and OANN is just a propaganda network for the president, so to answer your question, we’re already there.
Countless CNN/MSM articles and videos have been proven fake.
Name a few Fox stories, please.
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:51 am to AUauditor
The problem is sources. Social media and the goal to get the story out the fastest has ruined journalistic integrity. For example, remember a couple of weeks ago in ATL when the guy went and got his gun from his trunk and moved it to his front seat because armed protestors were blocking his way? Well some twitter fool posted only the part where he got the gun to when he cut through the parking lot as he was being assaulted by the protestors. It didn’t show him getting shot at. Cut off right before. In his twitter replies I saw 2 news agencies asking if they could have the rights to the film. A film that was not indicative of the whole incident before and after the event. Only the piece the piece the protestors cut and edited to make it seem like the driver was inciting violence. To me that’s a problem. News agencies need to stay the frick off twitter and should only be reporting what the police report says. The police always have additional footage from nearby traffic cams, security cans etc. they will tell the whole story. Instead, twitter users see these News station asking for rights and immediately they think the footage and the story is real so the news agency asking for the rights validates it to the ignorant. It’s funny because the protestor ended up getting arrested and the driver violated no law. So that’s just one example. But it’s a perfect example that news agencies don’t care about truth. They care about content in whatever form and that leaves it up for interpretation. So twitter being used as a source by news stations needs to end.
Additionally, “sources say” or a “source who doesn’t want to be identified” should only mean that you can’t and shouldn’t be a le publish that story. Either keep digging and find someone who will put their name on it or don’t publish it. It’s that simple. If someone is willing enough to talk to the press but not willing enough to put their name on it then I’d beg 9 times out of 10 they are either lying or they really in a position to know exactly what is going on. They may think they are being sincere but really they have no clue on what they are speaking about.
If I’m a news editor and a reporter brings something to me that says “sources say” I’m shredding the report immediately and telling that reporter to bring me back the truth with a named source or get the frick out and find something else to do.
Additionally, “sources say” or a “source who doesn’t want to be identified” should only mean that you can’t and shouldn’t be a le publish that story. Either keep digging and find someone who will put their name on it or don’t publish it. It’s that simple. If someone is willing enough to talk to the press but not willing enough to put their name on it then I’d beg 9 times out of 10 they are either lying or they really in a position to know exactly what is going on. They may think they are being sincere but really they have no clue on what they are speaking about.
If I’m a news editor and a reporter brings something to me that says “sources say” I’m shredding the report immediately and telling that reporter to bring me back the truth with a named source or get the frick out and find something else to do.
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