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re: "So babies are having heart attacks in the womb?"... "Yes"
Posted on 11/25/22 at 7:53 pm to BlueJacket
Posted on 11/25/22 at 7:53 pm to BlueJacket
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You claimed there was no god. Go back and read your own post. Don't be that stupid.
Correct. I believe there is no god.
How can you prove something doesn’t exist? Care to explain?
Do YOU believe there is a god? If not, why would you accost someone else who doesn’t believe in god about them better having proof that god doesn’t exist?
YOU are the one who claimed that I was religious. frick stick.
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You failed to name one thing that is moral and requires a religious belief. You just deflected and ran. I understand why. Always gets them.
You never asked me to. However, you have done a whole frick ton of deflecting.
But, again. Religion predates civilization. Before people settled down and the agricultural revolution happened, when they were still nomadic and had no form of writing… they were religious.
Temple complexes are popping up in turkey that predate settled society. They were built by semi-nomadic peoples.
They looked at the sky and tried to rationalize why they were here.
The founding of civil law codes, such as Hammurabi’s codes, are RIDDLED with references to the gods showing the interconnectedness between religion and moral/legal right and wrong.
Why are you so focused on the abrahamic religions? It’s fricking weird.
There were thousands and thousands of gods before Abraham told his little stories.
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Posted on 11/25/22 at 7:54 pm to BlueJacket
quote:If so, then you have no rational basis for arguing right and wrong with anyone. If you believe that morality is entirely subjective, then you have turned morality into nothing more than opinion. And if opinion, nothing can be objectively good or bad.
Absolutely has moral implications. Morals are subjective.
You contradict yourself. You say that morality is subjective but then argue for “rights”, as if it is (objectively) wrong to deny women the right to kill their offspring. How do you reconcile this?
Posted on 11/25/22 at 7:59 pm to beerJeep
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How can you prove something doesn’t exist? Care to explain?
I didn't make the claim, you did, asshat. It's not my job to prove your claim. You seem confused.
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You never asked me to.
Apparently comprehension isn't your strong point. I asked directly and you still can't come up with anything.
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Why are you so focused on the abrahamic religions?
It just happens to be the one that has the most affect on life in this culture. I'm not convinced any god is real, abrahamic or not. It's weird not to put more emphasis on the religion that tries to be the most influential in your own society.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:02 pm to BlueJacket
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Apparently comprehension isn't your strong point. I asked directly and you still can't come up with anything.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:03 pm to BlueJacket
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didn't make the claim, you did, asshat. It's not my job to prove your claim. You seem confused.
I didn’t say you made the claim. Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, is it champ? quote:
Apparently comprehension isn't your strong point. I asked directly and you still can't come up with anything.
Link?
Oh. And I have. Several times shown how religion directly played into the establishment of settled moral and legal codes.
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It just happens to be the one that has the most affect on life in this culture. I'm not convinced any god is real, abrahamic or not. It's weird not to put more emphasis on the religion that tries to be the most influential in your own society.
Well, uhhh…. Because when we are talking about the FOUNDATIONS of morals and how they were tied to religion, you need to go back MUCH FURTHER than the abrahamic religions.
You have to go back to pre-civilization.
frick stick.
Are you SERIOUSLY saying that man didn’t have religion until settled society and the written word?
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:03 pm to FooManChoo
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turned morality into nothing more than opinion
You really are confused. You think obeying rules listed in an old book makes them objective. That is just compliance. Explain how you know your set of morals is objective and maybe you will understand.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:04 pm to BlueJacket
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Religion came after civilization when humans were trying to explain the world around them.
Don’t try to walk this back baw
This is, honest to the nonexistent god, the dumbest thing you’ve written in this thread, and that takes some frickin skill.
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:08 pm to BlueJacket
quote:First, I would like to see how you reconcile your desire to act as if morality is objective and others should comply with what you think is right with the fact that morality would be nothing but opinion in your worldview.
You really are confused. You think obeying rules listed in an old book makes them objective. That is just compliance. Explain how you know your set of morals is objective and maybe you will understand.
You say one thing and act another way.
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:11 pm to beerJeep
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honest to the nonexistent god
Another claim and you have provided no evidence. You really aren't good at this, are you. You might want to read up on Critical Thinking 101. This is the most irrational thing you've stated so far. Try again.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:13 pm to BlueJacket
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Apparently comprehension isn't your strong point. I asked directly and you still can't come up with anything.
Find that link yet?
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Try again.
Indeed! Try again, good sir.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:13 pm to BlueJacket
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Another claim and you have provided no evidence. You really aren't good at this, are you. You might want to read up on Critical Thinking 101. This is the most irrational thing you've stated so far. Try again.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:14 pm to beerJeep
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Find that link yet?
Scroll up or is that not something you are able to manage. Stop being lazy.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:17 pm to beerJeep
Here are your responses to me thus far… if you would be so kind as to quote and bold the aforementioned “directly asked” question.
So, again. Please. By all means, point to the post.
I did the hard work for you…. By all means, which one?
Remember… you Did ask directly
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Totally wrong. Religious humans need to have a book to base their morals on. Speak for yourself. If you need a book to know that stealing is wrong, please keep your book. Morals have been around longer than your religion.
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Now I know you're trolling. Religion came after civilization when humans were trying to explain the world around them. You have it backwards. There is nothing moral that requires a religious belief. I find it interesting you claim there is no god though. Hope you have the evidence to back that one up.
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You claimed there was no god. Go back and read your own post. Don't be that stupid. You failed to name one thing that is moral and requires a religious belief. You just deflected and ran. I understand why. Always gets them.
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How can you prove something doesn’t exist? Care to explain? I didn't make the claim, you did, asshat. It's not my job to prove your claim. You seem confused. quote: You never asked me to. Apparently comprehension isn't your strong point. I asked directly and you still can't come up with anything. quote: Why are you so focused on the abrahamic religions? It just happens to be the one that has the most affect on life in this culture. I'm not convinced any god is real, abrahamic or not. It's weird not to put more emphasis on the religion that tries to be the most influential in your own society.
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Another claim and you have provided no evidence. You really aren't good at this, are you. You might want to read up on Critical Thinking 101. This is the most irrational thing you've stated so far. Try again.
So, again. Please. By all means, point to the post.
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Scroll up or is that not something you are able to manage. Stop being lazy.
I did the hard work for you…. By all means, which one?
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I asked directly and you still can't come up with anything.
Remember… you Did ask directly
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:22 pm to beerJeep
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Remember… you Did ask directly
I agree...and you didn't answer. I'll ask again and try to be even more plain. Can you name something that is moral that requires a religious belief? Do you really need to see the "?" to understand the question. You can't be that dumb.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:41 pm to BlueJacket
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See how simple that is? All the other blabber is just your attempt to avoid admitting you can't do it and I'm right. I understand your type, it's OK.
Whatever you say mr “I asked you a direct question but I can’t quote it even when you quoted each of my posts”
Religion didn’t exist before settled society
Religion didn’t have a massive impact on the foundation of the moral codes found throughout the world
Quick question…..
Can you quote and bold the question that you “directly asked me”?
(Notice how my question ends in a…. Gasp! Question mark????)
If you can’t, just say so by admitting “my name is bluejacket and I can’t help but lie”
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 8:43 pm
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:43 pm to FooManChoo
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If so, then you have no rational basis for arguing right and wrong with anyone. If you believe that morality is entirely subjective, then you have turned morality into nothing more than opinion. And if opinion, nothing can be objectively good or bad.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:46 pm to beerJeep
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Whatever you say
Glad you agree. Instead of taking the issue head on, you want to stay on the fringes and pretend to be confuse. Not falling for it. You couldn't mention one moral act that requires religious beliefs because....here goes....listen really closely this time.....there are none.
No one said that people didn't use religion as an excuse for their bad behavior and it's inconclusive whether religion predated civilization....depends on how formally you define each. If this is still to complicated and you need me to reword it all again, I'm not sure I can help you.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:50 pm to BlueJacket
Do you play dodgeball?
That’s a lot of words to say “my name is bluejacket and I can’t help but lie”
Whatever you say me “my name is bluejacket and I can’t help but lie”
Ever find that direct quote? I find it odd how you keep… what’s that word you were using earlier… ah yes. Deflecting?
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You couldn't mention one moral act that requires religious beliefs because....here goes....listen really closely this time.....there are none.
That’s a lot of words to say “my name is bluejacket and I can’t help but lie”
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If this is still to complicated and you need me to reword it all again, I'm not sure I can help you.
Whatever you say me “my name is bluejacket and I can’t help but lie”
Ever find that direct quote? I find it odd how you keep… what’s that word you were using earlier… ah yes. Deflecting?
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:51 pm to zsav77
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This individual’s atheism has blinded him. It poisons everything he thinks, believes, and writes. It’s a cancer that’s eating him from inside out. He’s hijacked more than one thread and enjoys provoking people. He a sad, messed up person. He’s turned his back on truth and reason. Sad to say, it’s best to ignore him.
I’m leaning towards a dangerously low t male with boobs or a butch masculine feminist.
With an avg of over 70 posts/day (one of them being Thanksgiving), it definitely doesn’t have family or friends and their only interaction with others takes place on DU.
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:54 pm to LSUAngelHere1
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I’m leaning towards...
There you go describing your dream date again. Look, I'm definitely not your type. You'll find some guy that is into you..just keep looking. Let go of some of that Christian hate first though.
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