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re: Sky Screamers Rejoice! Senate votes to repeal the repeal of Net Neutrality
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:14 am to Breesus
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:14 am to Breesus
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This sums up what I think about you pretty well.
It doesn't effect me, so why think about the bigger picture?
Meh.
His post merely illustrates that not all customers have the same demands.
Hence, there can be competition in a market because of this and it IS IN FACT competition.
For example. The fact a family of 10 cannot buy as their primary vehicle a 2 door Tercel doesn't NOT mean that a Tercel is not a competitor to a minivan.
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:15 am to Breesus
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This sums up what I think about you pretty well.
It doesn't effect me, so why think about the bigger picture?
Like overregulation? Because that's the big picture, chief.
DSL is great competition for broadband for most household applications. If it weren't, the local phone company locally wouldn't be in business right now.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:15 am to ShortyRob
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We have another one who doesn't know what the word competition means in terms of markets.
Oh. And a bicycle IS a competitor to a car.
Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you incapable of having an intellegent conversation about this?
Let me ask you this:
Would you consider a sail boat or jetski as legitimate competition to a commercial transatlantic barge for international shipping purposes?
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 11:16 am
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:15 am to ShortyRob
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It is truly astonishing how you can't comprehend that the above is a GOVERNMENT created problem
Government created corporations.. but that designation doesn't grant power. A government without power to restrict or dismantle corporations will inevitably become subject to them. The founders knew this.. and that the solution was a more powerful government.. not a less powerful one. "Wise restraints".
“I hope we shall... crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.” - Thomas Jefferson
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 11:17 am
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:16 am to bmy
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Government created corporations.. but that doesnt grant power.
Sigh.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:17 am to ShortyRob
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He's gonna shite his pants that I pointed out a bicycle IS a competitor to a car.
This is a reductum ad absurdum. It's an argument that only makes sense if you don't really think about it. While technically, cars and bicycles are both vehicles for transportation, they are about as similar in use, and compete about as often as
and a
sure, they both use a brush to clean things, but a consumer shopping to fill the usefulness of one doesn't consider the other to be a competing or substitute product.
This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 11:20 am
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:18 am to bmy
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“I hope we shall... crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country.” - Thomas Jefferson
jesus christ you're a fricking imbecile.
I suggest you read more of Jefferson and what he meant by "moneyed corporations"
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:18 am to Breesus
quote:Dude. It it what it is. I'm not sure why you don't what the term competition means in terms of markets, but that's not really a NN problem. It appears that's a more general issue for you here.
Are you being intentionally obtuse or are you incapable of having an intellegent conversation about this?
quote:
Would you consider a sail boat or jetski as legitimate competition to a commercial transatlantic barge for international shipping purposes?
Nice try.
So. No. I don't think a bicycle is a competitor for an 18 wheeler when that specific buyer needs to ship 10000 pounds.
I sincerely hope your example was you just trying to be shifty rather than a sincere lack of understand of how bicycles compete with cars.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:18 am to RogerTheShrubber
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DSL is great competition for broadband for most household applications. If it weren't, the local phone company locally wouldn't be in business right now.
the local phone company is also AT&T
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:18 am to Breesus
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intentionally obtuse
It’s a slight troll.
Roger is the one to debate with. Shorty just goes for the troll jabs.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:20 am to kingbob
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This is a reductum ad absurdum. It's an argument that only makes sense if you don't really think about it. While technically, cars and bicycles are both vehicles for transportation, they are about as similar in use, and compete about as often as
Well, if that's what I mean, you'd have a point.
Alas.
There are, in fact, customers who need transportation to get to and from a place, where a bicycle will suffice. Some of these customers are people who live half a mile from work in a neighborhood that has very high walkability. This is just one example, so don't get all hung up on it.
The term competition in terms of markets works this way.
If you guys skipped economics, that's not a me problem.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:20 am to ShortyRob
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His post merely illustrates that not all customers have the same demands.
Correct.
I don't need high speed broadband and don't want to pay the local internet company the money they want, so I choose DSL. It accommodates all of my current needs and most of the populations internet requirements.
We do have broadband as a premium product if a faster speed is needed and I want to pay more.
The price of broadband has decreased since the local telephone company put on an aggressive ad campaign and they are direct competition to the broadband supplier.
With 5G mobile technology, I imagine we'll see people going more and more towards totally wireless internet.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:21 am to kingbob
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This is a reductum ad absurdum. It's an argument that only makes sense if you don't really think about it. While technically, cars and bicycles are both vehicles for transportation, they are about as similar in use, and compete about as often as
that's inaccurate.
it isnt reductum ad absurdum. There are many people who commute using a bicycle, and I would wager during Rush hour in baton rouge it;s faster over short-medium distances.
Just because a competitor is more advanced doesnt mean there isnt competition.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:21 am to FooManChoo
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I'm for less regulation of that market, period.
Okay.
Fine.
But it’s not a simplistic “less is better” when they still have a component that devestates the free market.
You have to have both (now).
Or remove both simultaneously.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:21 am to GeorgeTheGreek
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Roger is the one to debate with. Shorty just goes for the troll jabs.
There's no troll.
There are a subset of customers who, due to their circumstances, are able to choose a bicycle to accomplish their general trans needs over a car.
Do you even deny this?
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:21 am to ShortyRob
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He's gonna shite his pants that I pointed out a bicycle IS a competitor to a car.
Absolutely it is. Different market segments but still competition.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:22 am to ShortyRob
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The term competition in terms of markets works this way.
If you guys skipped economics, that's not a me problem.
but he's in laaaaaaw school. That makes him smaaaaaart.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:22 am to ShortyRob
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For example. The fact a family of 10 cannot buy as their primary vehicle a 2 door Tercel doesn't NOT mean that a Tercel is not a competitor to a minivan.
How about if there was only one road paving company in your city and that company partners with Ford to mold the road to match only Ford tires thus making a other vehicles basically impossible to drive and then it made a law that all Fords have no speed limits and all other vehicles can only go 2 miles per hour.
In that scenario, would you consider anyone a competitor to Ford? Or is your answer, well it's a free market someone else should come along and pave an entire new road system and build and entire new car manufacturing facility and have it be competitively priced and available before the existing monoply crushes it out of existence?
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:22 am to CptBengal
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Just because a competitor is more advanced doesnt mean there isnt competition.
This is their problem
They think that "competition" means, "product that replaces other product exactly".
But that's not what it means at all.
Posted on 5/17/18 at 11:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
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With 5G mobile technology, I imagine we'll see people going more and more towards totally wireless internet.
But what if I told you that the dsl telephone company, the wireless company, and the broadband company that are all supposedly competing in your hypo, are actually THE SAME COMPANY!
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