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Single payer healthcare financially penalizes heathy lifestyle?

Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:27 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69305 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:27 pm
People who exercise, eat healthy, etc end up being financially penalized at the expense of obese diabetics.

Yes, it is true that some illnesses are not at all connected with personal life style choice, but a HUGE chunk of tax dollars would end up going to diseases that have their origins in personal bad habits

At least in the current system, you can theoretically choose your plan type and your premiums/deductible.

Under single payer, You can’t choose a “tax plan” that taxes you less and makes you pay more up front for medical services. It’s a one size fits all unfair scheme that penalizes activity and healthy habits
This post was edited on 10/11/18 at 9:31 pm
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112659 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:27 pm to
Go walk around your local Wal-Mart and ask if you want to be on a government run health plan with those people
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:27 pm to
This is true of any insurance ya dolt. It’s called a risk pool
This post was edited on 10/11/18 at 9:30 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69305 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:29 pm to
Except under current system you can choose different levels


Are you suggesting we have a tax system under single payer where tax payers can choose their tax rate?
This post was edited on 10/11/18 at 9:30 pm
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:31 pm to
I am suggesting that your personal health means dick all in how much your premiums are. You shouldn’t have brought that up at all if you wanted to compare single payer to what we have now
This post was edited on 10/11/18 at 9:32 pm
Posted by chity
Chicago, Il
Member since Dec 2008
6081 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:31 pm to
Now days, personal responsibility is frowned upon.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69305 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:32 pm to
healthy people can choose lower premium/higher deductible plans if they want


Under single payer, you cannot “choose” a irs tax scheme where you pay less in taxes but pay more up front for med services
This post was edited on 10/11/18 at 9:34 pm
Posted by gamatt53
Member since Nov 2010
4934 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

healthy people can choose lower premium/higher deductible plans if they want


Sure they can. And so can 400lb wildabeasts. The premium includes the risk from that wildabeast. You shouldn’t have started your argument the way you did because it happens in our current system.
This post was edited on 10/11/18 at 9:37 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39496 posts
Posted on 10/11/18 at 9:37 pm to
It’s wealth redistribution dressed up as an essential service.
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